dear old nx or switch to inventor?

[laurax]

Hello everyone

I am a new member but in the past more than once with your discussions you brought me out of the mess.

Now I have a specific problem:
I have changed work and from scratch we are pulling on a technical office for the design of machinery in the field of zip, so I still assimilate quite large.
I have been in charge of choosing the 3d program, and I am in the shoes, after 5 years of passionate design with nx I do not know if to buy that at a decidedly altine cost, saving however the cost and time of the courses, or if to pass to a lower band with inventor, but having to learn it from scratch.

What do you recommend?
I have read a lot of your discussions, but I have not yet understood clearly what is the real difference between a high band and an average band.
What does it change?

Thank you very much for your help

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Hello everyone

I am a new member but in the past more than once with your discussions you brought me out of the mess.

Now I have a specific problem:
I have changed work and from scratch we are pulling on a technical office for the design of machinery in the field of zip, so I still assimilate quite large.
I have been in charge of choosing the 3d program, and I am in the shoes, after 5 years of passionate design with nx I do not know if to buy that at a decidedly altine cost, saving however the cost and time of the courses, or if to pass to a lower band with inventor, but having to learn it from scratch.

What do you recommend?
I have read a lot of your discussions, but I have not yet understood clearly what is the real difference between a high band and an average band.
What does it change?

Thank you very much for your help

Well switching from nx to inventor seems to me a leap back not recently...
I understand going from nx to pro/e rather than catia that are 3 high-end.

high-end: it is not only distinguished by the cad side but for its product development system, therefore cad-cam-cae-pdm-plm not to mention other interface programs, all integrated in one solution, therefore easy to interview with a single reference and above all not to join other sw distributed by third parties, with consequent problems of interfaceability and interoperability of data.
Low band: the exact opposite..

ps: if you want to manage enough big assemblies then better than let inventor stay, the fight is always there nx-proe-catia.

training is a very bypassable obstacle, if you already come from a 3d parametric system, the methodology is always the same, only the icons change.

I hope I've been helpful, if you have any further questions, ask, but we could be here talking about it for hours.:redface:

greetings

 

[The_Matrix]

Hello everyone

I am a new member but in the past more than once with your discussions you brought me out of the mess.

Now I have a specific problem:
I have changed work and from scratch we are pulling on a technical office for the design of machinery in the field of zip, so I still assimilate quite large.
I have been in charge of choosing the 3d program, and I am in the shoes, after 5 years of passionate design with nx I do not know if to buy that at a decidedly altine cost, saving however the cost and time of the courses, or if to pass to a lower band with inventor, but having to learn it from scratch.

What do you recommend?
I have read a lot of your discussions, but I have not yet understood clearly what is the real difference between a high band and an average band.
What does it change?

Thank you very much for your help

Finally an interesting discussion.
Are you asking? inventor all life...

1) your employer will thank you for making it spend a little less (even if there are packages of nx that matter little + inv), so you can buy the second porsche.
2) your colleagues will thank you for all the new whisperers will know how to slew us
3) you will find a lot of people who can use it
4) if you need to make a fitting or a complex piece you will have a good excuse not to do it or get late with delivery ("inventor can't do this... It costs little, what do you expect?"
5) you have the opportunity to learn a new cad
6) you will have a cad that goes slowly so you can go grab + decaffeinated coffee and also make friends with colleagues carrying cakes to accompany
7) you won't have to look at your colleagues as morons because they can't take advantage of nx
8) the dealer's hotline will certainly be more nice
9) the inventor forum on cad3d is much more populated
10) boh, but there are always 1o good reasons to choose inventor instead of bvn (good old nx)

 

[maxopus]

Finally an interesting discussion.
Are you asking? inventor all life...

1) your employer will thank you for making it spend a little less (even if there are packages of nx that matter little + inv), so you can buy the second porsche.
2) your colleagues will thank you for all the new whisperers will know how to slew us
3) you will find a lot of people who can use it
4) if you need to make a fitting or a complex piece you will have a good excuse not to do it or get late with delivery ("inventor can't do this... It costs little, what do you expect?"
5) you have the opportunity to learn a new cad
6) you will have a cad that goes slowly so you can go grab + decaffeinated coffee and also make friends with colleagues carrying cakes to accompany
7) you won't have to look at your colleagues as morons because they can't take advantage of nx
8) the dealer's hotline will certainly be more nice
9) the inventor forum on cad3d is much more populated
10) boh, but there are always 1o good reasons to choose inventor instead of bvn (good old nx)

but you are fetish, you did not give her the final solution ... bvz, the good old zucor.

 

[The_Matrix]

but you are fetish, you did not give her the final solution ... bvz, the good old zucor.

I was objective and more realistic than the king

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

I was objective and more realistic than the king

objectivity and realism is a quality that has long disappeared in this world. :wink:

 

[Preparation-H]

I was objective and more realistic than the king

But why are you writing so small? I already lost 4 diopters to read your posts... :smile:

Bye!
p-h

(right to go off topic that is a bit that you don't see divagation in post... It seems that everything flows smoothly like the oil... of castor. . )

 

[Preparation-H]

objectivity and realism is a quality that has long disappeared in this world. :wink:

Oh, it's good that you come back every now and then!

Hello!
p-h

 

[cacciatorino]

What do you recommend?
I have read a lot of your discussions, but I have not yet understood clearly what is the real difference between a high band and an average band.
What does it change?

As ozzy said, the main difference is that high-end cads are more "scaleable" in the sense that you can add additional modules, all produced by the same company, which extend the functions of the cad. Otherwise a high-end cad but with basic license is not at all told that it is better than a mid-range, so much to make an example the basic version of catia is not even able to read or write a step file.

depends on what you do. What is the zip field?

 

[IPdesign]

Well, I think all the interventions told you basically to spend more on software and less on training.
We do not understand, training is very important, especially at nx levels, but if you are already trained I do not see why to complicate life.
in the sense, saving in training that I already own and invest in better software. (and here unleash hell: )
years ago I also passed for these decisions and the choice to be immediately operational with a software that I felt great and immediately fruitful gave its fruits.
Unfortunately of these periods because of the crisis I had to give up assistance, but always remains a system that will hardly make you regret the choice.

 

[IPdesign]

Oh, it's good that you come back every now and then!

Hello!
p-h

I go ,:biggrin:

 

[laurax]

thanks to all for the answers, even for those shamelessly 'part'.

the problem is that the offers arrived these days, adding little more than 1000 euros at the cost of a basic nx license (i.e. less than 10% of the total) you can have two inventor licenses, and when it comes to money it is not me to have the last word (in fact not even the first one).

add that my boss not really of first fur and little brought for the pc knows how to use a little autocad and knew that it is understood with inventor, I believe that in front of this and the money any argument, more strictly computer science loses meaning.

I will try to get nx but I see it hard, if it will be inventor you will see me often and willingly on the forum.

for those who asked, by zip I meant the hinges, or zip fast closures that you want, I assure you that behind there is a world that I ignored

 

[marcof]

the problem is that the offers arrived these days, adding little more than 1000 euros at the cost of a basic nx license (i.e. less than 10% of the total) you can have two inventor licenses
(cut)
add that my boss not really of first fur and little brought for the pc knows how to use a little autocad and knew that it is understood with inventor, I believe that in front of this and the money any argument, more strictly computer science loses meaning.

without minimally entering the merit if you need nx, basti inventor rather than autocad or the tecnigraph, I will never end up astonishing how our captains (rotfl!) of industry, "sciur padrun da li buy braghi bianchi", show that they can manage the innovation and development of their enterprises with the criteria of the stand of cocomeri, that buys the tablecloths of paper where they cost less or of the tourist who buys the sunglasses from the vucumprà because they are so mirrored and with the same form of the zeiss that cost 20 times so much, except then cook the retines to 2000 meters with the taroccate lenses and complain
If the Chinese and the Indians had to kick their ass on the level of innovation and technology (and I'm afraid they'll do it...) some reason will have to be there.

 

[marcof]

add that my boss not really of first fur and little brought for the pc knows how to use a little autocad and knew that it is understood with inventor, I believe that in front of this and the money any argument, more strictly computer science loses meaning.

I add that I have one who wants to buy a parametric cad3d and is at the same time tempted by the possibility to use also autocad because he knows "a little ", should be kept out of the ut by armed sentinels and with the order to shoot at sight :tongue:

 

[cacciatorino]

without minimally entering the merit if you need nx, basti inventor rather than autocad or the tecnigraph, I will never end up astonishing how our captains (rotfl!) of industry, "sciur padrun da li buy braghi bianchi", show that they can manage the innovation and development of their enterprises with the criteria of the stand of cocomeri, that buys the tablecloths of paper where they cost less or of the tourist who buys the sunglasses from the vucumprà because they are so mirrored and with the same form of the zeiss that cost 20 times so much, except then cook the retines to 2000 meters with the taroccate lenses and complain
If the Chinese and the Indians had to kick their ass on the level of innovation and technology (and I'm afraid they'll do it...) some reason will have to be there.

You have to see how things really are. who did the nx vs inventor comparison, I think he would have written a report for the benefit of his boss. If in the report it says that for certain jobs it is necessary nx because inventor is not up to it, then responsibility goes to the boss.
If, on the other hand, the report says "better nx because I already know how to use it", then I don't see much scandal buying two fiat points instead of an audi a4, but it seems like a very smart choice. If for your daily use the point is adequate, there are no reasons to buy the audit, however the cad does not have as main purpose to use it to go on the waterfront on Saturday afternoon, which for which the audit would actually be far more profitable than the point.

The important thing is that the comparison was done deep and carefully.

 

[marcof]

The important thing is that the comparison was done deep and carefully.

I thought I understood that it will not be so much a technical question of comparison of the products but, in the end, a question of simple purchase of two inventor licenses at the cost of a nx, economic evaluation made by the "capo" that has no familiarity with the computer and has an infarination of autocad, which draws behind them together with inventor.
then for charity, maybe it's enough the tecnigraph, but the criteria of choice that fears who opened the thread, they pair me

 

[The_Matrix]

for those who asked, by zip I meant the hinges, or zip fast closures that you want, I assure you that behind there is a world that I ignored

Wow, I can imagine.
If nx or inventor are the same thing I'd say there's no behind then I'm great that...

 

[cacciatorino]

Wow, I can imagine.
If nx or inventor are the same thing I'd say there's no behind then I'm great that...

Actually, there could be pretty complex things like microfusion and/or plastic deformations, things on which maybe a powerful cad like nx can be necessary. If it's assembly machines, maybe a mid-range can be adjusted.

 

[The_Matrix]

Actually, there could be pretty complex things like microfusion and/or plastic deformations, things on which maybe a powerful cad like nx can be necessary. If it's assembly machines, maybe a mid-range can be adjusted.

my answers were a bit sarcastic because, from what world and world you do not choose (in fact, you should not choose) the design tool with the criteria:
"I already know how to use"
"so little and my boss can use autocad"
...however, now this kind of diatribe affects me relatively.

 

[IPdesign]

I return on how much I had expressed before ..
Does the Commission intend to take the necessary steps to ensure that the Commission is able to take the necessary steps to ensure that the Commission is able to take the necessary steps to ensure that the Commission is able to take the necessary steps to ensure that the Commission is able to take the necessary steps to ensure that the Commission is able to take the necessary steps to ensure the proper implementation of the programme?
or does your boss think it's enough to buy the vehicle and then use it?
I have a boss who only looks at the initial cost without thinking about making you operational in the least possible patch is not too far away.