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[SaGi95]

hello to the whole community,
I am just a participant in this interesting forum!

I hope as first time I have cataloged my discussion in the correct section.

I would kindly need to have some girls/talks to figure out what program to specialize in the area I work with.
I briefly explain my career. for some years (effectively 2 years and a half) work at a Venetian company that deals with upholstered furniture, for naval contract, hotel etc. . I am employed in technical office and I am involved in the design of the semi-finished intended as a rough stem and consequent passage in cnc of the pieces that I derive from the creation of the virtual product. I work mainly with autocad, for quick sketches, and with rhinoceros for the development of the stem in 3d. for the second program are still at the first weapons, but I cable quite well, while with autocad me the cable already better. I personally find that rhino is a little limited with regard to distinct bases and layout of the boards, so I am trying to direct my forces on another program that offers me more possibilities. My indecision is precisely in the choice, since I do not know how to work on other software on the market, I am very indecisive. the learning hypothesis oscillates between solidworks, 3ds max and inventor (of course I know these but are also open to other tips).

Therefore, now that you know a little what I do and what point, I ask everyone, no exfoliation (but especially for those who work in the wood and upholstered furniture industry) with what program is better and which would advise a person to the first approach.

I thank all those who will spend a minute of their time to fill some doubt.
Good Sunday to all!! !
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[TECNOMODEL]

I don't know your business environment so hard to answer what the best software is, knowing rhinoceros I can safely tell you that, if you need to make tables, separate etc, it is absolutely not suitable.
I would advise you to contact the various retailers and make you make a demo asking that it is specific to your business. in parallel I would try to inform me about the software used in your industry, from competitors, suppliers etc.
If you can better explain what your job is, some more targeted suggestions might come.

 

[lillo5]

by personal experience I can tell you that one of the most used is solidworks.
in my current company we are on catia but is definitely oversized for our needs.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

by personal experience I can tell you that one of the most used is solidworks.
in my current company we are on catia but is definitely oversized for our needs.

one of the most used in that business and specific sector?

 

[lillo5]

one of the most used in that business and specific sector?

Yes. I've been working in the furniture industry for 15 years.

 

[SaGi95]

I don't know your business environment so hard to answer what the best software is, knowing rhinoceros I can safely tell you that, if you need to make tables, separate etc, it is absolutely not suitable.
I would advise you to contact the various retailers and make you make a demo asking that it is specific to your business. in parallel I would try to inform me about the software used in your industry, from competitors, suppliers etc.
If you can better explain what your job is, some more targeted suggestions might come.

work with customer design, or from specific photos and measures. my purpose is to design the product from the stem, which I realize with rhinoceros. I then pass all the pieces created in ".dxf" and the amount in the numerical control machine where I create the program to cut the pieces/pieces. the problem is that, once I have finished developing the product in 3d, I think I put more than due to imply and to make a distinct base of the pieces. So I'm looking for a software that gives me the possibility to draw exclusively in 3d (which my owner doesn't like because he thinks it's a waste of time, but we cheat), I get hung up and create a distinct piece.

 

[SaGi95]

by personal experience I can tell you that one of the most used is solidworks.
in my current company we are on catia but is definitely oversized for our needs.

I've never heard of this program. How is it for design? You okay?
regarding solidworks I have heard that there is the possibility of having "an expansion" (let's say so) for the furniture industry. Have you ever used this program with this possibility?

 

[TECNOMODEL]

work with customer design, or from specific photos and measures. my purpose is to design the product from the stem, which I realize with rhinoceros. I then pass all the pieces created in ".dxf" and the amount in the numerical control machine where I create the program to cut the pieces/pieces. the problem is that, once I have finished developing the product in 3d, I think I put more than due to imply and to make a distinct base of the pieces. So I'm looking for a software that gives me the possibility to draw exclusively in 3d (which my owner doesn't like because he thinks it's a waste of time, but we cheat), I get hung up and create a distinct piece.

I did not understand what this stem would be, if it is the "frame" of the armchair, for example, rhinoceros is the least suitable tool you can use.
you have to go towards a parametric cad, in which it creates the axieme and various pieces in 3d.
from there get distinct, tables, explosions, manuals etc. is easy and automated, if everything is set well.
therefore serves good training on the software and, sometimes, a customization of some things.

 

[Vittorio]

Hi.
Since you are already in self-desk environment and if I have well understood you do not have great 3d models needs with complicated surfaces, you should stay on inventor. do everything you ask, separate etc. etc.
inventor also integrated a cam you could use for your cnc paths --->cam inventorHowever, before buying it a demo is mandatory.
regarding the owner who did not understand the usefulness of the 3d... is a good problem.
for this reason you should stay on inventor who uses the philosophy of autocad and therefore you do not have to learn all new things that, with a holder who rhymes against 3d, you may have the stress of performance.

 

[PIETRO2002]

All right, do model 3d, do paper drawings, expose the distinct, dxf to send to the cnc and if maybe, there's some piece to work in 3d, you can send the files step to put in the cam of a machine tool.
I think you simplify the way of working and with good peace of the "your" owner increases in productivity as well!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Hi.
Since you are already in self-desk environment and if I have well understood you do not have great 3d models needs with complicated surfaces, you should stay on inventor.
inventor also integrated a cam you could use for your cnc paths --->cam inventorHowever, before buying it a demo is mandatory.
regarding the owner who did not understand the usefulness of the 3d... is a good problem.
for this reason you should stay on inventor who uses the philosophy of autocad and therefore you do not have to learn new things that, with a holder who rhymes against 3d, you may have the stress of performance.

in reality autocad and inventor are parallel worlds that little have in common, perhaps only the name of the mother house.
in the past I worked in a company that designed in autocad (because we are used to this) then realized the 3d, often importing autocad sketches.
when I entered, since I was alone, I changed method, you work on inventor starting from 3d and from there you get the tables.
after a few months astonishment general for the reduction of working time, without counting the elimination of problems due to the non-monitoring of projects in autocad.

In summary, inventor or solidworks, when not even solid edge, are equal, each of them is a little more oriented towards a more specific sector therefore allows a better workflow in that area.
once identified which is (solidworks, hearing @lillo5 ) you form on that and learn how to use it in a thorough and effective way.

 

[Vittorio]

in reality autocad and inventor are parallel worlds that little have in common, perhaps only the name of the mother house.
in the past I worked in a...[/QUOTE
bhe.. saranno anche due mondi paralleli ma se hai uno storico fatto con Autocad non butti via nulla.
Certo il 3D non ha nulla a che vedere con il 2D.. ma l'ambiente e la filosofia non viene stravolta

 

[TECNOMODEL]

If you have a historian you also have an autocad license, that remains to you and use it to manage the foregoing until you have finished the transition.
plan autocad will be opened more and more rarely.

 

[Vittorio]

If you have a historian you also have an autocad license, that remains to you and use it to manage the foregoing until you have finished the transition.
plan autocad will be opened more and more rarely.

I don't agree on easy migration from one cad to another.
There must be valid motives that win an advantage.
Either way, you're in the house two cads and it's not the best.
now between inventor and solidwork, for the type of work explained above (according to my interpretation).. I don't think there are huge differences in productivity

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I don't agree on easy migration from one cad to another.
There must be valid motives that win an advantage.
Either way, you're in the house two cads.
now between inventor and solidwork, for the type of work explained above (according to my interpretation).. I don't think there are huge differences in productivity

I agree with you on migration, it is the motivation that pushes many companies not to change cad despite the choice made originally proved unclear.
In this case, I think, it is profoundly different. we are talking about a tool that is little more than a tecnigraph on pc and a parametric solid modeler. nothing to do with each other.

 

[lillo5]

for the furnishing sector a parametric cad is fundamental.
in the sofas the flank is usually equal and changes the width then made an element the rest revenues to the flight. (I simplify the concept, if then there are angles, terminals, etc. the thing complicates a thread)

catia is a high-end cad with a cost that in small realities is not justifiable; solidworks is definitely the best compromise.

wooden stems are usually made from solid modeling so without resorting to complicated surfaces.
in one of my experiences we used rhino for the "esthetic" part, we imported the surfaces in solidworks and from there we built the stem or the metal frame inside.
I do not remember if there were particular expansions but also the basic version is more than enough to make stems.

autocad we use it as manager for the 2d that we revenues from the 3d to avoid compatibility problems of dxf or dwg exported from catia.

 

[Vittorio]

I agree with you on migration, it is the motivation that pushes many companies not to change cad despite the choice made originally proved unclear.
In this case, I think, it is profoundly different. we are talking about a tool that is little more than a tecnigraph on pc and a parametric solid modeler. nothing to do with each other.

I am of the opinion that the best cad is what you are able to use.
If you don't have to draw planes, cars or missiles. Many cads, among the most blasphemed, look like each other.
then returning to the question raised by Ösagi95 , I would stay on inventor who is parametric and does not distort his habits with autocad

 

[SaGi95]

thank you so much to all those who have responded, I have found useful information to begin to understand what programs to use!