designer/designer junior. employer expectations

[NicoPortorico]

Hello people

I am a mechanical expert (15 years have passed by now), I have always loved d.p.o.i. (design and industrial organization) , but I never had the chance to work as a expert or as a designer.
I have a few years (3) of experience as a cnc conductor (frese 3, 4 and 5 axes) in the automotive (2 years) and aerospace (1 year) but the back can no longer and I would like to put myself in the game by going to desk work.

For a year now I have put my hands on inventor and fusion 360, but before presenting myself to companies as a junior designer/designer, I would like to understand what a medium/high turnover company expects (live in germany) from a professional figure like this, and what exactly would be the minimum skills required.I have lost some confidence in my skills in these years away from the calculator and the experience with cad is not so much, so I hope to read something that can "resolve" me.


thanks in advance to anyone who wants to contribute

 

[New Rider]

Hello people

I am a mechanical expert (15 years have passed by now), I have always loved d.p.o.i. (design and industrial organization) , but I never had the chance to work as a expert or as a designer.
I have a few years (3) of experience as a cnc conductor (frese 3, 4 and 5 axes) in the automotive (2 years) and aerospace (1 year) but the back can no longer and I would like to put myself in the game by going to desk work.

For a year now I have put my hands on inventor and fusion 360, but before presenting myself to companies as a junior designer/designer, I would like to understand what a medium/high turnover company expects (live in germany) from a professional figure like this, and what exactly would be the minimum skills required.I have lost some confidence in my skills in these years away from the calculator and the experience with cad is not so much, so I hope to read something that can "resolve" me.


thanks in advance to anyone who wants to contribute

Italian or German company?

 

[NicoPortorico]

You mean where I want to work? ?
living in germany I would say own German company where competition I know for certain that it is well prepared.
I'm also considering rewriting myself in engineering but I see it hard!

 

[New Rider]

You mean where I want to work? ?
living in germany I would say own German company where competition I know for certain that it is well prepared.
I'm also considering rewriting myself in engineering but I see it hard!

However, having an operating experience on control machines, I think, once you have a confidence with the cad, it is not very difficult to insert yourself as a designer. different speech instead if you want to enter as a designer. serve solid foundations first and then years and years of experience.
I have seen things very far from our reality. in Italy, at least in my parts, we work at the best worse. in germany if you're a designer, if you're a designer, do the designer. have a system different from our you know better.
What area are you in Germany?

 

[meccanicamg]

If you want to be a junior designer, you have to do it. apart from the cellarers, you must know how to evaluate some dimensioning, know well the design and manufacturing processes as well as manage projects, files etc.

 

[NicoPortorico]

I know the system well and it has its positive and negative points, not at all people are cold but efficient as robots but browses the various offers known that the technical designer in some companies is also required design and/or a slightly malleable job. . Regardless of personal skills and ability to work in team (which here is of absolute importance).

I live north of Dusseldorf, I am on the border with the Dutch (where I have worked lately) and I can play the two cards distinctly (although things work almost the same way).

Honestly, the qualifying test for the designer is not so different from the one perito in Italy or the task of maturity (in fact) , but the language is the real problem .

to make the designer would have been my dream as a new graduate (not at all I had enrolled in university) I hardly know how to balance a system . but of my c and the desire to return to study and taaanto free time .

However both my "question" is valid both in Italy and in germany... I have specifically written medium-sized companies to increase "theoretically" the quality of the standard.

 

[meccanicamg]

all are demanding. the tyranny that makes good drawings does not serve anyone especially because the big evolved companies no longer put on the table but pass the math to the departments....so you are aiming high enough

 

[NicoPortorico]

If you want to be a junior designer, you have to do it. apart from the cellarers, you must know how to evaluate some dimensioning, know well the design and manufacturing processes as well as manage projects, files etc.

hello thanks for the intervention

That's what I've been doing since forever. .

I contacted the teacher who made me graduate, and I assure myself that my knowledge and skills were well enough, ...to run a project professionally from to z is something that I never had the opportunity to learn even at school because unfortunately we have not spent much time at the organization (more than: machine times, craftsmen, impurities, and some organgrams have not done great)

If there's a way to do a specific autovatuation or confront someone, believe me to take it to the air!

What do you mean by file management?? would you make a practical example please??

 

[meccanicamg]

manage files...pdm, drawing revisions, versions, logic and communication between pdm and plm and things like that

 

[NicoPortorico]

where should these knowledge be acquired? experience in the field?

and about engineering. . How important do you think is the mastery of fem/fea software?

 

[NicoPortorico]

If I had understood that I meant this (pictured below) I would have saved the question!

 

[meccanicamg]

the skills you acquire partially in university but very on the field if you are very curious. know how to handle a fem at least structural allows to make evaluations of design and design. . It would be worth it not to do wrong things or nonsense.

 

[meccanicamg]

If I had understood that I meant this (pictured below) I would have saved the question!

This image means everything and nothing. However if you do 3ds and put them on the table you will use a pdm that manages revisions, versions, accesses and information from designer. then extract the distinct.... or the molds and the dams in manufacture or is passed in digital from the pdm to the management via plm platform... if you change something in 3d... in distinct....va in the plm....gran bella cosa....complessa etc.

 

[NicoPortorico]

it s challenging and not just repetitive, this is what I like.

In short, you are rightly giving me the objective view of the facts, but I do not feel any real attempt at persuasion that gives me some hope.

Do you have any idea how it can measure me without risking taking bad referrals here in germany are always required??

 

[meccanicamg]

that I know there is no universal self-assessment test. ...otherwise I would use it as well to shake up the new resources that arise to work in ut. unfortunately there is to beat our noses, or be aware of their abilities and therefore adapt to this.

 

[NicoPortorico]

that I know there is no universal self-assessment test. ...otherwise I would use it as well to shake up the new resources that arise to work in ut. unfortunately there is to beat our noses, or be aware of their abilities and therefore adapt to this.

Do you think having a small project in the portfolio could be a good business card?

 

[meccanicamg]

the project must be done, mounted and with customer satisfaction....if you have even mounted it and put it in place would not be bad... but too little anyway

 

[NicoPortorico]

the project must be done, mounted and with customer satisfaction....if you have even mounted it and put it in place would not be bad... but too little anyway

I'd say finding the client is the hardest part.

hypothetically speaking, then, if I introduced myself to you with:

- direct experience in production and maintenance of plants.

- some personal projects (made with 3d printer) with material study (plastics :/ ) and cost analysis.

- a professional certification (autodesk inventor in my case).

- a project completed by freelancer for some customers found on online platforms.

Could I be one of those that you'd risk banging your nose? (always hypothetically)

 

[tanticapelli]

manage files...pdm, drawing revisions, versions, logic and communication between pdm and plm and things like that

managing a project from a to z is not something discounted for a junior profile, but is claimed by a senior profile.
as junior you must first know the tools you have available and open your ears well to understand what the superiors claim from you (usually the project manager).
If you have senior skills, it'll mean they'll pay you as a junior, but they'll drive you crazy like a senior.

 

[NicoPortorico]

managing a project from a to z is not something discounted for a junior profile, but is claimed by a senior profile.
as junior you must first know the tools you have available and open your ears well to understand what the superiors claim from you (usually the project manager).
If you have senior skills, it'll mean they'll pay you as a junior, but they'll drive you crazy like a senior.

Maybe you're right, but it's totally unthinkable that you can complete a project without communication between departments and various offices, so in a certain way even a junior should at least adapt.