double session nx and team center

[supertramp]

hello to everyone, I've been working for a company that also uses team center. because of the long waiting times for the regeneration of the tables I would like to be able to work on two nx sessions at the same time.
is there any one of you who knows if it is possible and how to configure team center to allow two nx sessions to open files?

 

[ceschi1959]

hello to everyone, I've been working for a company that also uses team center. because of the long waiting times for the regeneration of the tables I would like to be able to work on two nx sessions at the same time.
is there any one of you who knows if it is possible and how to configure team center to allow two nx sessions to open files?

Hi.
It is possible and how it depends on how nx is started from tc, this of course is centralized and you should get made of ad hoc settings that you usually do not.
I usually use double (and also triple :biggrin: ) nx sessions only in nativo, with all the risks of the case. I have never used multiple tc sessions so I can't tell you what may be the drawbacks of this practice.

 

[supertramp]

thanks baskets, always present is illuminating.
I nx the launch from the special key that I have in team center but I don't know more... Can you tell me if it's a simple local variable or what should you do to open a couple of nx sessions? even a suggestion for the systemists I have here would be very useful.

 

[warcraft]

Hello I apologize, I'm trying to install nx 9.0 but you tell me to install a java virtual machine?
We have someone who has already done this procedure I close help.
thanks in advance

 

[ceschi1959]

thanks baskets, always present is illuminating.
I nx the launch from the special key that I have in team center but I don't know more... Can you tell me if it's a simple local variable or what should you do to open a couple of nx sessions? even a suggestion for the systemists I have here would be very useful.

ciao,
vai qui https://community.plm.automation.si...nx-9-on-windows/m-p/266907/highlight/true#m52and download the file nx90custom_reve.7z
It's a customization made by one of the siemens. you will find .bat files to start nx in native or as tcin. towards the last rows of these bat files you will see that there are rows that systemists will easily understand.

 

[ceschi1959]

Hello I apologize, I'm trying to install nx 9.0 but you tell me to install a java virtual machine?
We have someone who has already done this procedure I close help.
thanks in advance

Go. https://solutions.industrysoftware....m/result.php?sort=desc&q=java+virtual+machine and see if you can find the solution to your problem.
This is the site gtac of the siemens in which you authenticate with your user name and password linked to the nx.

 

[Lettore espatriato]

Hi.
It is possible and how it depends on how nx is started from tc, this of course is centralized and you should get made of ad hoc settings that you usually do not.
I usually use double (and also triple :biggrin: ) nx sessions only in nativo, with all the risks of the case. I have never used multiple tc sessions so I can't tell you what may be the drawbacks of this practice.

I don't want to be confused, but if you arrive in the morning at 8, open 3 nx sessions (which in my time were equivalent to 3 licenses) and everyone does like you, 2/3 of your company waits noon to open a nx session.
or your company must purchase 1200 licenses instead of 400.
always that something has not changed in the meantime.

 

[ceschi1959]

I don't want to be confused, but if you arrive in the morning at 8, open 3 nx sessions (which in my time were equivalent to 3 licenses) and everyone does like you, 2/3 of your company waits noon to open a nx session.
or your company must purchase 1200 licenses instead of 400.
always that something has not changed in the meantime.

from the times (ug11 1996 in my case) unigraphics before and siemens then have always said 'one mouse one person', you can start nx sessions from a station and you occupy a single license.

 

[Lettore espatriato]

Since the times of the days ug11 1996 unigraphics before and siemens then have always said 'one mouse one person', you can start nx sessions from a post and you occupy a single license.

Boh. where I worked, every nx leaving was a less license, with the result that several people had to stay 2 hours watching the system waiting for someone to go out or crashed the system.
1000 or 2000 licenses may be managed in a different way than 2 or 3 .

 

[ceschi1959]

Boh. where I worked, every nx leaving was a less license, with the result that several people had to stay 2 hours watching the system waiting for someone to go out or crashed the system.
1000 or 2000 licenses may be managed in a different way than 2 or 3 .

this could have happened: in the license manager (flexlm) put at most two bundles, if you find the first good otherwise it goes to the second; supposed to have three types of licenses is not said to be your free ones. Did I explain?
Hi.

 

[Lettore espatriato]

this could have happened: in the license manager (flexlm) put at most two bundles, if you find the first good otherwise it goes to the second; supposed to have three types of licenses is not said to be your free ones. Did I explain?
Hi.

As explained, each machine has no licenses installed, but only tc and nx "empty" . After that, every morning, starting the application, flexlm goes "on the server" to fish a license.
We are aware that the supplier who works in these companies usually does not come with his laptop, his nx, connects to the network and begins to work. Instead, it sends the machine and license code to the IT department that resets the pc and inserts its operating system, its nx version, various programs and, in the end, the license becomes only one +1 in the license server.
This was my experience with nx2 (so we don't talk about ug ....) in similar companies, if not identical, to the one mentioned above.
If in the meantime they changed management, I don't know. but, however, before doing such a thing (how to download and install customizations for nx), I would inform myself well from some systemist .

 

[beppino]

open multiple nx sessions on the same machine there are no problems (provided by ug18 to nx11 ;-)).
open the same license (single license) from multiple machines, you can not.

 

[ceschi1959]

when I was free professional, with my license node locked and then physically on pc, when I went to some companies with tc and server licenses I could quietly or connect to one of their or use mine. I speak of multinationals with n+n licenses. the problem with some of them was that they did not accept any external hw element for obvious reasons of confidentiality (even a usb key to understand us).
I am now in a company, as an employee, in which the systemistic part is managed by a long-term partner to whom I try to give a hand, where possible, in management and configuration cad.
the initial question was whether it was possible to start nx sessions with tc and the answer is yes, there are no management problems and even to 'rub' licenses to other users.
In addition to the aspect I mentioned in my last speech, there might be another one that allows a user to allocate two licenses even in the same session: for example the mfg bundle (manufactoring) does not have stl export so to me it happened that one who has this bundle and exports to stl calls another license and allocates two.

 

[Lettore espatriato]

open multiple nx sessions on the same machine there are no problems (provided by ug18 to nx11 ;-)).

that you can do ok. it is not said that you should do or that it is the best from the business point of view.
If you were at door 8, you'll understand what I'm talking about.

the initial question was whether it was possible to start nx sessions with tc and the answer is yes, there are no management problems and even to 'rub' licenses to other users.

I don't think it's that simple.

How come, as far as I know, by default, with tc you can't start more nx sessions? why do we particularly care to "limit" the use of nx sessions if there were no contraindications?

the answer that had been given to me at the time and that I had taken for good was that opening a nx, you accessed a license . every additional nx stole a license.

in these days, looking in other lids, I found that even to other people something similar happened . i.e. having groups of 5 people with 5 licenses and one of the 5 remained unlicensed if one of the others started a double session of nx.

Perhaps the bundle "calls" the networked licenses differently from the floating ones? if I activate a nx session with the modeling and one with the drafting I require two different licenses, which in the case of the bundle can lead to 2 "full" ?

not that I care a lot about how nx licenses (or catia) behave, eh. I am just a humble designer and no one asks my advice for the systemistic part.
It was just to understand if I was the only one on the face of the earth to which that happened....

 

[ceschi1959]

that you can do ok. it is not said that you should do or that it is the best from the business point of view.
If you were at door 8, you'll understand what I'm talking about.



I don't think it's that simple.

How come, as far as I know, by default, with tc you can't start more nx sessions? why do we particularly care to "limit" the use of nx sessions if there were no contraindications?

the answer that had been given to me at the time and that I had taken for good was that opening a nx, you accessed a license . every additional nx stole a license.

in these days, looking in other lids, I found that even to other people something similar happened . i.e. having groups of 5 people with 5 licenses and one of the 5 remained unlicensed if one of the others started a double session of nx.

Perhaps the bundle "calls" the networked licenses differently from the floating ones? if I activate a nx session with the modeling and one with the drafting I require two different licenses, which in the case of the bundle can lead to 2 "full" ?

not that I care a lot about how nx licenses (or catia) behave, eh. I am just a humble designer and no one asks my advice for the systemistic part.
It was just to understand if I was the only one on the face of the earth to which that happened....

as you have understood from my previous post I make precision almost a mania (my job requires), a clarification: licenses are two node locked and server types, there are floating modules not licenses, in fact you cannot download a license to get it to another (floating) but you can, if you have floating, download the free form 2 module, for example, and allow another user to take it, in my (of me) former company I had an advanced floating assembly, it works so.
second look here https://community.plm.automation.si...ru-teamcenter/m-p/286996/highlight/true#m1637third if you want a gtac answer just ask.
even to me, not later than a couple of days ago it happened that a user had allocated two licenses but, I repeat, it is a mistake, possible, of the flexlm not has nothing to do with opening multiple nx sessions. the limit case has described it to you, with a license on the same machine you can open nnnnn sessions!

 

[supertramp]

In fact where I worked before we had only one locked node license and we could open n sessions without problems.
I have turned the link to the ced I hope they succeed:finger:

 

[Lettore espatriato]

as you have understood from my previous post I make precision almost a mania (my job requires), a clarification: licenses are two node locked and server types, there are floating modules not licenses, in fact you cannot download a license to get it to another (floating) but you can, if you have floating, download the free form 2 module, for example, and allow another user to take it, in my (of me) former company I had an advanced floating assembly, it works so.
second look here https://community.plm.automation.si...ru-teamcenter/m-p/286996/highlight/true#m1637third if you want a gtac answer just ask.
even to me, not later than a couple of days ago it happened that a user had allocated two licenses but, I repeat, it is a mistake, possible, of the flexlm not has nothing to do with opening multiple nx sessions. the limit case has described it to you, with a license on the same machine you can open nnnnn sessions!

leggo dal link:

1) i know this isn't gtac supported, and the risks, .... this will not be enabled for all users.
2) ...it's an additional step, to make the user *think* about what they are doing, and they have to intentionally take that extra step. hopefully reducing accidents.

in un'altra discussione sempre dallo stesso sito:https://community.plm.automation.si...-instances-of-nx-at-the-same-time/td-p/316247

3) ... unless you *really* know what you're doing, you *never* want to run more than one nx session connected to tc (and only 1 tc instance at a time too) (there's just too much chance of massive corruption).

4) ...starting multiple managed nx sessions from teamcenter portal is not supported.


probabilmente la soluzione del problema è stata implementata, mi pare di capire, da nx10. etc
infatti, nel link che ho postato:

5) starting with tc 10.1 and nx 10 there should only be one tc connection between any number of managed nx sessions, so it should be more safe to run multiple managed nx sessions concurrently.