draftsight per mac os x

[BuDuS]

I had already tried draftsight on linux and found myself pretty well.
I wanted to try it on mac os x. I didn't use it much, also because I found some difficulties I would like to share with you, to understand if it's just my problem or it's just like this:

1. missing the toolbar at the top that normally contains the classic buttons for file opening/closing, print but, above all, layer management, current line type and color.
2. I can't make the drawing pan using the mouse.

I understand that it is in mac style However, I find it uncomplicated to have all separate windows (to reduce everything to icon I have to use the icon of the doc directly), the lack of the pan and, above all, not to understand that layer is active.

Do you feel these problems?

 

[cacciatorino]

avvertite anche voi questi problemi?

I think to use the mac to make cad you will be in three all over Italy....:tongue:

 

[BuDuS]

I think to use the mac to make cad you will be in three all over Italy....:tongue:

What does this have to do with what I wrote?

I use mac os x from very few (at home I have always used - and I will continue - linux and, at professional level, I am obliged to use windows) and it seems to me a great system.

the fact that it comes from different experiences - and did not go directly with a mac - is clearly a trauma factor: I am accustomed to certain things, I do not find them (because, clearly, it is different .....) and suffering.
but, the more I use it, the more I turn out the opposite: in the other two (linux and windows) I do not find things that are present on Mac.

Beyond the fact that I am convinced the mac has always been snobbed only from the "mechanical" sector (of which I am part) while, in other sectors (edile in primis) it has been used decidedly more, I noticed that, lately, there are several big players of the cad world (mechanical) that are facing the environments mac and even linux.

I don't think these people are doing it purely randomly.

then: I don't see what's weird about using a cad on mac os x (or even linux, as well as there we will be really few).

 

[cacciatorino]

then: I don't see what's weird about using a cad on mac os x (or even linux, as well as there we will be really few).

I was joking.

I only say that as you are very few to use the mac in the cad sector, you will hardly find answer to your questions.

p.s. rest of the idea that operating systems should be chosen according to the programs that must be used, and not vice versa.

 

[BuDuS]

I was joking.

I only say that as you are very few to use the mac in the cad sector, you will hardly find answer to your questions.

p.s. rest of the idea that operating systems should be chosen according to the programs that must be used, and not vice versa.

I don't take it, quiet... more than anything else I hoped for an answer more constructive and I was disappointed.

I first know I wrote a dead letter.
But who knows, with time, maybe users increase, someone searches, ends up here and answers me for an exchange of views. It's not impossible.

 

[Legs]

1. missing the toolbar at the top that normally contains the classic buttons for file opening/closing, print but, above all, layer management, current line type and color.
2. I can't make the drawing pan using the mouse.

1. I don't know the draftsight version for linux and so I don't know what you're talking about, but honestly, what does it matter to not have buttons to open/close files or print?
   there is the file menu that contains them or directly press the key combinations (e.g. command-o to open, command-p to print etc.).
   Considering that access to menus on mac os x works at the speed of light compared to other systems does not seem a great lack to have those buttons.
   the real lack is that of the layer window.
   but at the end the choice of graebert not to put it can also be accepted if you simply use the property panel.
   it is possible to use it in two ways: if you have not selected anything then the choice of layers or colors (etc.) will do just the veils of the missing windows, if instead you have selected something the choice will be specific for the selected object.
   However, with the comand-1 combination, you can open or close the property panel on the fly (if it is bothered to keep it open) for these particular operations.
   In short, the property panel has a more massive use in the mac version.
2. but what do you use? normal mouse, trackpad, magic mouse etc..
   I noticed that with a normal mouse the pan works directly by pressing the central key.
   with the trackpad does not work the use of the two fingers, sin.
   I had tried with autocad for the mac and there instead the trackpad is managed very well (with the two fingers you actually have the pan, approaching or moving two fingers you have the zoom etc.).
   I still prefer to use a normal mouse for the cad and therefore not resent the problem. with the left hand you can always press the letter p and immediately the space bar.
   However there are programs to completely modify the behavior of both mouse and trackpad so as to fix problems like this. for example try to take a look at bettertouch.

 

[BuDuS]

1. I don't know the draftsight version for linux and so I don't know what you're talking about, but honestly, what does it matter to not have buttons to open/close files or print?
   there is the file menu that contains them or directly press the key combinations (e.g. command-o to open, command-p to print etc.).
   Considering that access to menus on mac os x works at the speed of light compared to other systems does not seem a great lack to have those buttons.
   the real lack is that of the layer window.
   but at the end the choice of graebert not to put it can also be accepted if you simply use the property panel.
   it is possible to use it in two ways: if you have not selected anything then the choice of layers or colors (etc.) will do just the veils of the missing windows, if instead you have selected something the choice will be specific for the selected object.
   However, with the comand-1 combination, you can open or close the property panel on the fly (if it is bothered to keep it open) for these particular operations.
   In short, the property panel has a more massive use in the mac version.

the linux version and windows are identical (or anyway I did not notice differences, that windows I used it really little).

"open" buttons, actually, are the ones I feel less about, although I still prefer them.
but "active properties", in a program like autocad (or pseudo-tale), I consider them rather important, honestly lacking.
the listbox of the layers I use it to decide what to freeze/break etc..., without I find a little distracted. ok, the menu piglio, but it is definitely worse (menu, take command, open d-box, choose, click ok ... definitely worse ... already better from keyboard, but how many combinations must learn one that uses n cad?).

at the limit a bar at the top with these things, I would not be sorry, as much as I prefer "the unique window" to the separate ones ... also the "reduce to icon" is maluccio, gives me the impression of something that works on the mac for the broken headphone.

• but what do you use? normal mouse, trackpad, magic mouse etc..
  I noticed that with a normal mouse the pan works directly by pressing the central key.
  with the trackpad does not work the use of the two fingers, sin.
  I had tried with autocad for the mac and there instead the trackpad is managed very well (with the two fingers you actually have the pan, approaching or moving two fingers you have the zoom etc.).
  I still prefer to use a normal mouse for the cad and therefore not resent the problem. with the left hand you can always press the letter p and immediately the space bar.
  However there are programs to completely modify the behavior of both mouse and trackpad so as to fix problems like this. for example try to take a look at bettertouch.

use the mouse provided in totation with imac: monotasto multitouch.
I tried various key combinations, but the pan did not just find it and suspect it is not possible to do it (I hope in denial).
similar problem I have found it on "autocad ws": There's a zoom, but the peel.

for the rest I would say everything ok, I did not meet other difficulties.

 

[Legs]

as I told you you could try to use utilities like:
magic prefs:http://magicprefs.com/bettertouchtol:http://www.boastr.de/or use a normal mouse (I use a logitech).

I agree with you that draftsight is not yet mature.
Consider it a beta version.
However it is not bad to be a free software.
the use of the property panel allows you to cover apart from the shortcomings you noticed.
the use of the keyboard should not scare those who are accustomed to using mac os x since there is a certain standardization.