drilling equipment

[khan.uma]

Good evening, I would have to design a locking equipment for a flange that allows me to make holes on the plate and holes on the tree. As for the holes on the m10 plate I had already in mind a system that allowed me to do it but I have to find a semi automatic way that allows me to make the 4 holes of diameter 4.5 mm by turning the piece and here is where I am encountering difficulties. .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

As for the holes on the plate m10 I had already in mind a system that allowed me to do so

great, you've posted a nice picture, but you have to explain it. I have a perplexity already...

I have to find a semi-automatic way that allows me to make the 4 holes of diameter 4.5 mm by turning the piece and here is where I am facing difficulties.

Expose your difficulties and in any case put a couple of solutions, however wrong, so you have a discussion ground.

there are other discussions about drilling equipment, read them to take stock.

Remember that we do not solve tasks, but we discuss with you students of your ideas.
presented so that you know who you are talking to and can use an optimal technical language.
read the regulation and you will see that as you are student to flag a professional software is to avoid.
read some old student discussion to understand how to behave in the forum.

 

[Mattymecc]

You can rotate the table with a step-by-step motor operated by a plc, while the locking lever can handle it through a solenoid, or eliminate it and lock the engine.

 

[PIETRO2002]

I think the equipment is for making 3 holes at 120° on the flange, you don't have to make holes on the tree! The 4 holes on the shaft are actually 3 and serve as an indexing for the rotation of the flange/gateflangia system.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

let us understand the situation; the applicant must make equipment to make holes of pieces in series, attach a assembled and a drawing of a particular. the assembly is used to make 3 front holes, as is evident from the view in the plant, the design has 4 front holes and 4 radials; so the assembly did not do it the applicant, but found it (and already here his "I had already in mind a system that allowed me to do it" leaves the time he finds) and expects that we provide him the solution to make the radial holes that that that equipment will never do.
I repeat what was previously written: the forum should not provide solutions to the tasks of students, but discuss with them the extracurricular validity of their ideas.

that you say, before suggesting ideas that will inevitably involve everyone except the applicant who will see to increase his confusion, as we have seen often happen, to wait for the applicant to show that he has put his head on and propose his ideas.
and maybe we try to make him the active part of the request.

 

[Vittorio]

that you say, before suggesting ideas that will inevitably involve everyone except the applicant who will see to increase his confusion, as we have seen often happen, to wait for the applicant to show that he has put his head on and propose his ideas.
and maybe we try to make him the active part of the request.

I followed the case and share
He registered yesterday, wrote his request and no longer entered the forum.

 

[Mattymecc]

I think the equipment is for making 3 holes at 120° on the flange, you don't have to make holes on the tree! The 4 holes on the shaft are actually 3 and serve as an indexing for the rotation of the flange/gateflangia system.

you are right, with that equipment you can not make holes on the cylindrical tract of diameter 38, at most with appropriate modifications you can make the 4 holes on the flange.

p.s. I believe that despite some discussions in series of threads as long as useless and some users who take advantage of it and then if they go you should not be so reluctant to give information/solutions.
when I can contribute to what I know, but I often asked for things I didn't know and always answered. . .

 

[rinato]

I would suggest that if, for example, use a 3-axis cnc machine, first work in holes in the plant, then load an angular head (at 90° ) and perform radial holes. of course one at a time, turning the mask by hand or piloted.
other controls at 1⁄2plc or as 4 axis of the cnc at its discretion, if the homework permits it.
otherwise 2 masks and 2 separate processing phases. and amen.
above to remain "land-land". If then the fantasy is in power, I despise myself.
we hope to hear a blow...

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I believe that despite some discussions that have arisen in series of threads as long as useless and some users who take advantage of it and then go there should not be so reluctant to give information/solutions.

We do not confuse the request for solutions or technical information in the field of work, where it can be unprepared to the need for the moment, with the request in the school where the needs are a consequence of a preparation for the question.
the forum should not replace the school and the teacher; if a task is assigned it means that the basics have been explained to carry out it (please don't throw into the dance taught that live outside the world and teach badly), so the student must propose a solution.
the forum may discuss the validity of the solution, of the more or less fallacious reasoning, of the difference between the school and working context of that solution, but should not resolve or correct a task, but stimulate critical reasoning.
this because first of all you do harm to the student who, even if he does not notice, does not uimpara and will increasingly struggle to keep up who he really knows; then you do a wrong to who sweats and studies to solve the task only because you did not have the ass to find the forum; Finally it is wrong to the teacher because he throws his work in the toilet, done well or bad little matter we must not be the ones to evaluate it only from the words of the students who obviously always believe of the victims.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

If the homework allows it.

here is another thing to keep in mind; a sense to give suggestions if you do not even know the requirements of the task?
so to say, can you turn it 20 twenty times that piece or should never be dismantled from the equipment?

 

[Mattymecc]

I am sorry but I do not share at all, I have never said that you should do the job instead of a student, but not for this reason must be precluded the possibility of asking and proposing solutions and suggestions that must be taken by those who asked them for, possibly, to complete the project.
about the alleged "damage" that you would do to the student I write about the forum I cannot know what the other information will do. avoid writing for precaution? I think everything depends on the common sense of who's on the other side. . .

is wrong to the teacher because he throws his work in the toilet, done well or bad no matter we must not be the ones to evaluate it

So is it better to let the student do something worse? Can we not help him to fill his gaps and to understand things more thoroughly (without anything in my opinion wasting what the teachers did)?

I don't want to steal space from the subject of the discussion anymore.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

@mattymecc I'm glad you omitted an important part of what I wrote.
However to be more concise about my thinking: first the student puts his solution then the forum releases answers.
as it is right you are more than free to write what you prefer

 

[meccanicamg]

Good evening, I would have to design a locking equipment for a flange that allows me to make holes on the plate and holes on the tree. As for the holes on the m10 plate I had already in mind a system that allowed me to do it but I have to find a semi automatic way that allows me to make the 4 holes of diameter 4.5 mm by turning the piece and here is where I am encountering difficulties.View attachment 66714View attachment 66713 .

Are you sure the question you asked?
in blue there is a flange and not a plate. Is that what's going on?
on a drawing is square and on the axieme is round? Has she turned?
What are the holes on the tree? 3 holes? But that's the equipment.
What do I have to study? How to build equipment or how to make 3 radial holes on the equipment shaft? Do you have to do the study to build equipment in series or make holes in the flanges in series?
the hand drawing shows a particular fusion or worked by full but does not have trees.

an exercise so has already been resolved on the forum. search.

Your request is not clear at all. So whatever we answer now doesn't need anything.

you also learn to read a regulation that you had to accept and submitted.

it will be necessary to take measures because it is a continuous like this. do not read, first post request.

 

[khan.uma]

let us understand the situation; the applicant must make equipment to make holes of pieces in series, attach a assembled and a drawing of a particular. the assembly is used to make 3 front holes, as is evident from the view in the plant, the design has 4 front holes and 4 radials; so the assembly did not do it the applicant, but found it (and already here his "I had already in mind a system that allowed me to do it" leaves the time he finds) and expects that we provide him the solution to make the radial holes that that that equipment will never do.
I repeat what was previously written: the forum should not provide solutions to the tasks of students, but discuss with them the extracurricular validity of their ideas.

that you say, before suggesting ideas that will inevitably involve everyone except the applicant who will see to increase his confusion, as we have seen often happen, to wait for the applicant to show that he has put his head on and propose his ideas.
and maybe we try to make him the active part of the request.

Good morning, I fully share his ideas and apologize if I was absent from the forum but I had other tasks to do. As for the equipment attached to make the 3 holes at 120°, it was simply a point. I have to make it 4 to 90° of m10 so I had thought to put the attached solution by changing it and doing on the tree with the 4 holes instead of 3. Then as for the solution of the step-by-step motor, I thought about it too because at least so I could control the angle movement but it is forbidden therefore I can not use it. the solution to which I had thought (I will attach a design that makes me understand better, I thank you for the patience) was to make a kind of equipment made to the sides to allow the rotation of everything through a handle (I still have to understand if it can be an effective solution) and then to make maybe another 2 holes to 180° on the tree to allow them to make rotations for the holes of diameter 4.5 but those I had intention to make it all two at a time. As for the old solutions on the forum, I had looked for them and I had taken the cue to sign up to dialogue actively with you without limiting myself to comparison with another. excuse me if I appeared rude or exploiting your knowledge, I am not used to forums and I put myself wrong, I thank you for your availability.

 

[rinato]

I would avoid crossing the ø38 with the tip from ø4,5 because the "reattach" on the inner face can flaunt (in fact: in the practice strips for sure...). but much depends also on the function to which those 4 holes are intended.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I would avoid crossing the ø38 with the tip from ø4,5 because the "reattach" on the inner face can flaunt (in fact: in the practice strips for sure...). but much depends also on the function to which those 4 holes are intended.

being in fine exercise to itself there is no function to consider.
the disposition is more easily on the outside with convex surface, if not properly guided, than on the whole where the tip is guided by the previous hole and then by the concave surface; I think in making two holes at the same time there are no problems of disassesment.

 

[PIETRO2002]

Surely you need a pointed guide compass, as already noted, I wouldn't cross diameter 38, to avoid tip bandages.

 

[Vittorio]

the recommended minimum beam of the convex surface is 4 times the diameter of the integral tip.
ø38 (r19) is slightly out, but acceptable, by this rule ø4.5x4= 18 .
for automatism is better definitely a guide mouthpiece.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

the recommended minimum beam of the convex surface is 4 times the diameter of the integral tip.
ø38 (r19) is slightly out, but acceptable, by this rule ø4.5x4= 18 .
for automatism is better definitely a guide mouthpiece.

Can you explain this recommendation better? I never heard of her. .

 

[Vittorio]

Can you explain this recommendation better? I never heard of her. .

I don't know how to explain it, but I tried and I didn't have any problems with flogging.--> qui