Martina Webber
Guest
I'm sorry... but I'm a bit distorted. I never created a lisp and I don't think it's a very simple thing to do
Cristallo
Guest
Hello martin,
from those that are my remembrances, the columns of jets internetrate (and must do it!). the amount of interconnection of the adjacent columns terna depends on:
- type of injected mixture;
- injection pressure;
- number of valves/meter;
- obtainable inclinometric precision (which depends on the nature of the soil, the precision of the drilling machine etc.)
If I remember well, you can do jet treatments to reach areas not reachable directly, tilting the perforations. this means that the "width" calculated with the paramaters mentioned above, will be reached only at the bottom of the hole, competing very at the beginning of the drilling.
This implies that the dynamic block with volume really doesn't need anything, because you'll get a roundabout in the volume of the treated land.
and the volume treated is one of the fundamental parameters for the monetary evaluation of the intervention, along with the total length of drilling, and the length of the valve tract.
Am I wrong?
from those that are my remembrances, the columns of jets internetrate (and must do it!). the amount of interconnection of the adjacent columns terna depends on:
- type of injected mixture;
- injection pressure;
- number of valves/meter;
- obtainable inclinometric precision (which depends on the nature of the soil, the precision of the drilling machine etc.)
If I remember well, you can do jet treatments to reach areas not reachable directly, tilting the perforations. this means that the "width" calculated with the paramaters mentioned above, will be reached only at the bottom of the hole, competing very at the beginning of the drilling.
This implies that the dynamic block with volume really doesn't need anything, because you'll get a roundabout in the volume of the treated land.
and the volume treated is one of the fundamental parameters for the monetary evaluation of the intervention, along with the total length of drilling, and the length of the valve tract.
Am I wrong?
XANADU65
Guest
you... you would like a lisp (semi)parametric with the graphical interface of dcl for data collection, which exposes the required data ...
we make free software open... :finger:
but reading the answer and/or doubts of crystal .. the statement of gp ... I had the same idea... but I did not dare to propose. .
Now I give word to experts.. .
we make free software open... :finger:
but reading the answer and/or doubts of crystal .. the statement of gp ... I had the same idea... but I did not dare to propose. .
Now I give word to experts.. .
Martina Webber
Guest
I don't really need the volume for monetary evaluation but for a quick check that the land concerned is treated completely through work sections. what I need for my project is actually a series of data (already listed earlier) for the realization of the perforations.
I found the command scolpiscisuperf but I have to explode the block because it works and this does not help me. I have seen that with revit it is possible to create more or less complex bundles consisting of volumes and could be a plausible solution, but I did not find any useful lisp for my purpose.
Tristan
Guest
revit is not programmable in lisp
Martina Webber
Guest
I know that revit is not programmable in lisp but could be an alternative software with which to make the whole project. I misformed the sentence I apologize to tristan.
GP.
Guest
I put something down, but now I'm out of office, if you can wait for the afternoon...
Martina Webber
Guest
thank you gp. for the afternoon it is fine at the moment I am looking for the solution and I have a little time before starting to really disperse! ! !
Tristan
Guest
in revit is a cabbage make a similar family, but I worry the next (data extraction, layout in primis). .
XANADU65
Guest
good morning to all and good start of the week. ,...
Let's see what pulls out of the gp cylinder... (the afternoon has just begun) :wink:
and then we try to understand what data you have the extreme need...
but if gp created a lisp (semi)parametric or something similar... and I think you will agree also to tristan that data extraction... then it becomes a boy's game....for the layout I agree with you.
Let's see what pulls out of the gp cylinder... (the afternoon has just begun) :wink:
and then we try to understand what data you have the extreme need...
but if gp created a lisp (semi)parametric or something similar... and I think you will agree also to tristan that data extraction... then it becomes a boy's game....for the layout I agree with you.
XANADU65
Guest
...and I also believe the press.... can worry a little...
Martina Webber
Guest
I never worked with revit but from the tutorials I saw it seemed to me very simple to process. the problem is that I don't know how the layout works (if there is one) and everything else. the project manager has decided that it is better to continue working in autocad to not complicate our lives uselessly (although I believe that with revit we would not compose it at all) and find a solution that satisfies us.
for the extraction of data from revit I have seen that you can create abachi of all the families you want and export also to excel, I could not try specifically because revit we do not have it right in the office... we still work with tools in some ways obsolete even if always (or almost) effective.
Now I wait hopefully a gp answer that I am sure will amaze me with special effects! ! !
Tristan
Guest
you are so, but revit does not work with georeferenced information so if you need to pull out the x,y,z real of some points becomes a little problem
Martina Webber
Guest
This is a piece of revit..
Tristan
Guest
is not a sin; simply it is not thought to do these things. autocad has the pro to be multipurpose but see that to make parametric elements 3d spit blood. revit being a product designed for building engineering and architecture does not need to reason in terms of "where they are in the world" (although you can do it. . . )
GP.
Guest
this lisp (unfortunately) is not parametric, but does what I had written in a previous post, or "create solid cylinders superimposed to surfaces, after you have positioned and adjusted dynamic blocks".
It is better to work on a copy of the dwg as, I don't know why, on my pc the groin of revolution surfaces with constraints makes autocad angry and gets stuck.
However, in case, the commands are two:DSV+ to create solidsDSV - to erase them in one blow
I hope this will help you, cross your fingers... :smile:
It is better to work on a copy of the dwg as, I don't know why, on my pc the groin of revolution surfaces with constraints makes autocad angry and gets stuck.
However, in case, the commands are two:DSV+ to create solidsDSV - to erase them in one blow
I hope this will help you, cross your fingers... :smile:
Cristallo
Guest
I'll be the one who...
mess with a three-dimensional parametric block (to be placed and managed in three-dimensional), only to have the "certainty" of having filled a volume.. .
the limit from which you cannot escape is the interconnection of the columns at the bottom hole.
if you plant the column mesh at the bottom hole that you connect, the starting point of the drilling can have only 2 possible provisions:
a) perfectly vertical - this implies that if the column at the bottom crosses, it intersects at any other depth.
b) perforations with a focus - this implies that if at the bottom of the hole they are interconnected, they will be even more at less depth.
therefore you can have "certainty", simply by making sections along the files (1 for each different row), and also have the relative lengths, and also check for any unnecessary treatment cumshots that can be deleted not by fitting the valves in that section.
It's 3d thing I see an absurdly Moroccan complication. . .
I attach you 3 images of what I say, a simple treatment,
Then I'll give you 2 more of a complex treatment. . .
no derived from a 3d
for the rest of it... "do vobis" :wink:, but never let me meet someone who has learned a program as a revit to make jet-grouting that I send him to buy 1 litre of electricity!
mess with a three-dimensional parametric block (to be placed and managed in three-dimensional), only to have the "certainty" of having filled a volume.. .
the limit from which you cannot escape is the interconnection of the columns at the bottom hole.
if you plant the column mesh at the bottom hole that you connect, the starting point of the drilling can have only 2 possible provisions:
a) perfectly vertical - this implies that if the column at the bottom crosses, it intersects at any other depth.
b) perforations with a focus - this implies that if at the bottom of the hole they are interconnected, they will be even more at less depth.
therefore you can have "certainty", simply by making sections along the files (1 for each different row), and also have the relative lengths, and also check for any unnecessary treatment cumshots that can be deleted not by fitting the valves in that section.
It's 3d thing I see an absurdly Moroccan complication. . .
I attach you 3 images of what I say, a simple treatment,
Then I'll give you 2 more of a complex treatment. . .no derived from a 3dfor the rest of it... "do vobis" :wink:, but never let me meet someone who has learned a program as a revit to make jet-grouting that I send him to buy 1 litre of electricity!
Martina Webber
Guest
I'm sorry that you don't understand, the project I have to do is very complex and to not build by hand every single section I thought it was easier to make a 3d block. it is not a portion of land of 10x10 but of an ambia area covered by channels and utilities. 3d only made life easier for me.
As for your last statement, I think you could have avoided it. I've never been rude or rude, I've only asked for an opinion and you weren't obliged to respond so badly. It was enough to illustrate its point of view.
XANADU65
Guest
for the rest of it... "do vobis" :wink:, but never let me meet someone who has learned a program as a revit to make jet-grouting that I send him to buy 1 litre of electricity![/QUOTE]Good morning, everyone. .
crystal I have to correct you ..if you allow me electricity you sell to kilowat...ergo....not to lt. bensi to kg. so you can also find it in hardware packs of 1/2kilo. :biggrin::finger:
crystal I have to correct you ..if you allow me electricity you sell to kilowat...ergo....not to lt. bensi to kg. so you can also find it in hardware packs of 1/2kilo. :biggrin::finger: