earn a lot of engineer

[oliofrusto]

hello to everyone as I have already written in another post, I am a three-year engineering student that I will have to graduate in July machine tool address.
Since I don't have to attend classes, but only studying I've been looking for work.
I accepted an internship contract at 750 euros for 3 months as a 3d designer in a company where they produce packaging lines on commission.
I do not complain because 3 months are few and the salary to start is good, moreover they want to hire me with other contract at the end of 3 months if they like me. I also think I can learn enough by working closely with the owner who is designer along with the son.

as you know at the level of designer companies consider engineers to the same as graduates so also at the level of salary.

said that... certainly do the work you like is the maximum but this does not take away that there are other beautiful jobs in which you earn very well.

I was thinking of doing here a collection of people who managed to get a job to more than 2000 euros cleaned per month or of colleagues who managed to bring back here their experience and training and work in the field of general mechanics, therefore not only within the framework of the design.

 

[gil]

the number you indicate does not say anything or almost.
continue not to enter the perspective that you have to identify framework, qualification and sector. you have to watch the basic pay and then add deduction or bonus.

Subject to various masters, 2'000*13= 26'000 annual, for an employee engineer, is an average/high salary for an expert.

 

[TAURUS77]

hello to everyone as I have already written in another post, I am a three-year engineering student that I will have to graduate in July machine tool address.
Since I don't have to attend classes, but only studying I've been looking for work.
I accepted an internship contract at 750 euros for 3 months as a 3d designer in a company where they produce packaging lines on commission.
I do not complain because 3 months are few and the salary to start is good, moreover they want to hire me with other contract at the end of 3 months if they like me. I also think I can learn enough by working closely with the owner who is designer along with the son.

as you know at the level of designer companies consider engineers to the same as graduates so also at the level of salary.

said that... certainly do the work you like is the maximum but this does not take away that there are other beautiful jobs in which you earn very well.

I was thinking of doing here a collection of people who managed to get a job to more than 2000 euros cleaned per month or of colleagues who managed to bring back here their experience and training and work in the field of general mechanics, therefore not only within the framework of the design.

Hello, olive grove! !
I start by saying that I appreciate your positivity:finger:.....for the title of the discussion could be expressed better:tongue:.
even if at the moment I don't work in the design industry what I would like to make you understand that the path is uphill and that if as you say you have the opportunity to learn "good and fast" you treasure this experience and try to make you appreciate but don't step on.
from what I see the young graduates are often paid the minimum just for the poor training and experience this in any field but especially in the technical field where the contribution that a graduate can offer is low.... this does not take away that if one is awake can make in order to burn the stages and perhaps making it necessary in the role that it occupies can or could tear a couple of extra hundred in envelope pays.
personally I bazzicato in various sectors and the past my mood came under my feet and "in that valley of tears that is design I left you heart and liver". ... poor food and work so much so I addressed myself elsewhere and precisely in the world of automotives ranging from roles as motorist, mechatronics to researcher in engine and powertrain. useless to say that the rhythms were massacred with shifts and responsibilities not indifferent but at least the pay at the end of the month allowed me with great sacrifices to put on family. at the moment in Italy the 2000-2500€ clean as you assert are offered to senior profiles able to guarantee to the companies reactivity and decision-making while the graduates or graduates in any field arrive at max at about 1600€ but the most real figure and between 900-1300€ depending on whether it is a small company or a larger and structured company.
Today I continue to follow and keep informed for what I can of the "project" that in the mechanical field vul dire everything and nothing as it is an immensity in which to navigate and lose....every dream to do the blow and to always try again remaining in the automotive.... but then I see the salaries of my acquaintances and return on my steps.
I know so many guys and not guys very well prepared with masters, years of experience and bla...bla...bla...(the dumbest knows his fact as he said totò "'cca nisciuno è fesso!")....unfortunately we are in Italy.
to close the speech the only advice I feel to give you is to learn more than you can and look around evaluating also sectors or positions that seem to be less widespread and out of the indication that a three-year degree can offer.

 

[Meteor02]

Don't offend you but you haven't finished a "short" degree yet and you're worried about earning a lot? I don't know anyone over 2000 euros with less than 15/20 years of experience, whether he's graduated or not. the only advice I can give you is to give you salary and to accumulate more experience and professionalism possible, the salary will come accordingly

 

[cacciatorino]

Don't offend you but you haven't finished a "short" degree yet and you're worried about earning a lot? I don't know anyone over 2000 euros with less than 15/20 years of experience, whether he's graduated or not. the only advice I can give you is to give you salary and to accumulate more experience and professionalism possible, the salary will come accordingly

if the goal was to earn a lot maybe it was even better to choose a different professional field. ...

 

[oliofrusto]

I don't understand I don't say that as soon as I arrive in the world of work I claim to earn a lot.
I was wondering what can be a path and what field and what way to follow to be able to earn from 2000 up after several years.

However you are right, taurus77, my goal is to learn as much as possible in the coming years.
for this I have accepted the training internship of 3 months as a 3d and 2d designer so as to strengthen the knowledge of the technical design but I believe that only from drawingtre you can not go beyond 1500 after several years unless you are also excellent designers.

You are also right about saying that you have to keep an eye on other sectors in fact I believe that it is not to disdain the commercial department because I am convinced that who is well paid by the company is who has a customer package to which sells the services or products of your company.

ps: I don't know if you're retired now or if you've stayed where you earned well and don't go back to work you did before. but if you were born in 1977 I think I understood

 

[Stan9411]

Why don't you continue university if you have ambitions to achieve a prominent and well-paid role??

 

[oliofrusto]

Why don't you continue university if you have ambitions to achieve a prominent and well-paid role??

I'm 26 now. make more than 2 years of experience that 2 then become 3 of universities... then 2000 euros are not a huge salary... for a salary of 4000 I give you reason, but 2000 I think you can get with the experience in the right field.

 

[TAURUS77]

ps: I don't know if you're retired now or if you've stayed where you earned well and don't go back to work you did before. but if you were born in 1977 I think I understood

no....very likely I will die working and as I said before work in the automotive if I had to live with the designer's pay I would hunger and the only thing I could eat is the liver (this is my experience then everyone makes history to if.....unfortunately the spirit remains as a designer or better to say by rompicog...oni).I am of the mythical, unique and exclusive class seventy-seven:36_1

 

[Stan9411]

I'm 26 now. make more than 2 years of experience that 2 then become 3 of universities... then 2000 euros are not a huge salary... for a salary of 4000 I give you reason, but 2000 I think you can get with the experience in the right field.

from my point of view this is the last opportunity you have to see new things, you are not 40 years old.. After getting back to study is hard. you are the other post’s boy, we have done practically the same triennial and I assure you that the master really opens to a tide of new knowledge and skills. I also saw myself as a designer until graduation, now I completely changed my mind how much the part of cad is still my passion.
I would make it another chance, to make boards always do in time and if you like you can do it all your life.

 

[oliofrusto]

but I did the professionalizing so I should do 3 or 4 exams that are required to continue the propedeutics and then study another 2 years that will become 3, or go to another city where the integration of the three-year exams is not required. pay another 7 thousand euros or 8 thousand taxes in 3 years and lose 3 years of salary and eat my liver with exams and anxiety pre-examination... I couldn't make it tohahahah Bastaaaa! ahahaha
I want to enjoy my life because in recent years between work, study etc... are few free Sundays I had.
Hell on Saturday and Sunday I want to start devoting them to me.

 

[Pralek]

Hello oilfrusto,
in these areas I always recommend making a very difficult evaluation: How fast are you going to work? because if you can still do it a bit (considering money, time and will) then it is better the master's degree.
Now I sell it to you as a graduate who has been working since '97: I have not had any money, nor time and I admit neither will to graduate and the fatigue has been however so much to reach a salary that makes me land the lunar; for the record I have not yet reached the 2000 eh!
I still consider myself lucky because I did not want to make a path that helped me a lot in the design or I started from the workshop (rounds, brakes, adjustments, file) passing through the assembly and finally arriving in the design office; Despite my bosses, I've also taught engineers who just graduated the salary is always that...but it means something is worth.
to tell you what? the more you have titles and the more you can sell yourself better, the "I have to learn" does not move the "I have to earn", we must always learn but if you go to work for free because "you don't need money" you know that you are taking them away to those who seriously need it.
Employers (whoever less) must find the best performance at the lower cost, there is still someone who will pay you more than you are already taking...but you have to look for it.

Good luck!

 

[oliofrusto]

But no come on, I'm not taking anyone's job, for now with the new internship I'm learning design 2d since I used it very little in the old internship.
my curriculum in addition to the degree that will arrive in July counts training in the field of self-parator, 3 months collaboration in technical office on machines tools with relative thesis regarding the retrofit carried out on the machine in question, and now the new internship of 3 months regarding the deepening of the design 2d and 3d and something design.

After graduation I also want to do an English course to achieve a discreet level.

I've lost too much time at university and I don't want to weigh on family members.

 

[Pralek]

[QUOTE="oliofrustoshow di più..., post: 411698, member: 77555"But no come on, I'm not taking any work away from anyone

Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean this. It was just a preamble to explain how I think about "how much weight has learning and how much to earn."

However, I remain of the idea that if you can allow it to resist these last three years and take the master, abruptly said if you have the three-year-old you are not meat or fish instead: for employers who want to save money see you as just an obligation to give you the 5th level but you have no experience as a graduate, for those who may not be fossilized in saving will see you as an inexperienced and just.
if you have the master will immediately assess you as reliable even with zero experience, then maybe you will "stop" the same to 2000€ salary but at least you arrived without spitting blood (which I am doing).[/QUOTE]

 

[MirP]

Bye to all,

I personally did not find any leading thread between title of study and career.
my opinion is that the salary depends on many factors, not only on the title of study obviously.
For example, I know judiciary graduates who perhaps by a "debole" character work as mules but cannot be recognized their work. or graduate boys who know how to sell themselves well and then make their way.
said this, in general it is undeniable that having a high degree of study is better than not having it, because at the long pay.

the trap in which most engineers fall, especially mechanics, is to go to make designers and therefore have few career possibilities, compared to those taking the management/commercial road