external reference with non-responding coordinates

[Agar]

autocad 2006.
in the yellow.dwg file there is a yellow circle whose coordinates of the center are:
x=1523162.6355 y=5062531.5034
in the red.dwg file there is a red circle whose coordinates of the center are the same as the yellow circle:
x=1523162.6355 y=5062531.5034
in yellow.dwg I insert as xrif the red.dwg file as coordinates of the insert point x=0 and y=0
I don’t understand why the red circle is not positioned inside the yellow one as it should because they have the same coordinates, but very much moved up (it needs to be identified with zoom extension), and if I go to read the coordinates of its center I read: x=3046872.5182 y=1.0125e+07
I kindly ask how I could solve the problem, thank you.

 

[MarcoBi]

sure both files are crated with the same measurement unit?

 

[Agar]

Yes I am sure because if from red.dwg I cover the red circle and take it in yellow.dwg with paste on the original coordinates the circle is placed at the right point the problem occurs with xrif.

 

[Tristan]

there's something wrong with your red.dwg file but I don't understand what.
but doing a wblock of the red circle and saving it on a new file, with the xrif command then overlap perfectly.

 

[sircame]

the yellow design has the global uct, the red design has the local uct.

 

[Tristan]

the yellow design has the global uct, the red design has the local uct.

I didn't verify this, but if so then...myster solved!

 

[Agar]

in the red.dwg file I went into tools - other ucs.... - in the window ucs as current seleziono global.
I open the yellow.dwg file I try to insert the red.dwg file as xrif by assigning as coordinates of the insert point x=0 and y=0 but unfortunately the circle does not place in the right place but still much higher, where am I wrong?
Thank you.

 

[Cristallo]

in the red.dwg file I went into tools - other ucs.... - in the window ucs as current seleziono global.

and then you saved red.dwg? And you shut it down?

 

[Agar]

I tried to save and close red.dwg but reinserting it always goes to the wrong place.

 

[sircame]

You purged everything? if not remains trace of the block and do not overwrite it.. .

 

[sircame]

since the red fire had placed it with the right coordinates but the wrong uct, now that you have set the ucts you have to reposition also the circle... then purge everything, close everything (it is not necessary, but you are fine with consciousness... :d), reopen and re-enter the external xrif. . .

 

[Agar]

I performed purge both in red.dwg and in yellow.dwg
in red.dwg does not let everything purge:

in yellow.dwg not even, but the 2 blocks do not seem to refer to red.dwg:
yellow.dwg

I have remade the xrif insert test of red.dwg in yellow.dwg but unfortunately it always places it out place

 

[sircame]

Um... I just tried and I didn't find any problems:
1- open both files
2- move to the red file, copy the circle with base point the center of the circle
3- move to the yellow file and paste it into the center of the yellow circle
4- copy the red circle with coordinates 0.0.0
5- move to the red file, purge and paste with coordinates 0.0.0.
6- return to the yellow file and update the xrif
7- Now the circles should be one above the other.

 

[Agar]

I followed step by step as indicated by sircame, but the red circle inserted as xrif always ends in the wrong place.1- open both files
2- move to the red file, copy the circle with base point the center of the circle
3- move to the yellow file and paste it into the center of the yellow circleIn this way, I also place myself in the right place4- copy the red circle with coordinates 0.0.0
5- move to the red file, purge and paste with coordinates 0.0.0.
6- return to the yellow file and update the xrifin my file the red circles are 2 one at the right point, which is an object, and another at the wrong point that is a xrif 7- Now the circles should be one above the other.the problem is that if you copy the circle as object you place in the right place while if you import it as xrif it goes to the wrong place.
the fact is that for convenience in updates I have to import it as xrif and not as object.

 

[sircame]

I followed step by step as indicated by sircame, but the red circle inserted as xrif always ends in the wrong place.1- open both files
2- move to the red file, copy the circle with base point the center of the circle
3- move to the yellow file and paste it into the center of the yellow circleIn this way, I also place myself in the right place4- copy the red circle with coordinates 0.0.0
5- move to the red file, purge and paste with coordinates 0.0.0.
6- return to the yellow file and update the xrifin my file the red circles are 2 one at the right point, which is an object, and another at the wrong point that is a xrif 7- Now the circles should be one above the other.the problem is that if you copy the circle as object you place in the right place while if you import it as xrif it goes to the wrong place.
the fact is that for convenience in updates I have to import it as xrif and not as object.

Um... then try to pull it off and put it back, but make sure that both files have the insertion unit set on "no unit".

 

[Agar]

I have tried with these parameters:

but unfortunately the position is always wrong.

 

[sircame]

I have tried with these parameters:

but unfortunately the position is always wrong.

as the files are quite "incasinate"... try to remove all xrif and purge all.. .
I ran exactly the 7 points I listed you and had no problem.

I didn't understand the fact that you said you had 2 red circles.. .

p.s. "full path" is a bad thing...

 

[Agar]

1- open both files
2- move to the red file, copy the circle with base point the center of the circle
3- move to the yellow file and paste it into the center of the yellow circle In this way you added the red circle as an objectIn this way, I also place myself in the right place4- copy the red circle with coordinates 0.0.0
5- move to the red file, purge and paste with coordinates 0.0.0.
6- return to the yellow file and update the xrif updating add a second red circle that adds to what you had copied as object then are 2 to you are overlapping?in my file the red circles are 2 one at the right point, which is an object, and another at the wrong point that is a xrif 7- Now the circles should be one above the other. the red circle has diameter 20 that yellow 30 should have same center but not overlappedI tried to reinsert xrif both with relative path with the no path after detaching and purged but unfortunately the positioning is always wrong

 

[sircame]

found that you don't paste it as a block but as simple objects... I don't really know what to say. :frown::frown::frown

Maybe someone else in the forum has other ideas...

 

[Agar]

Thank you very much sircame.
cordial greetings