extraordinary maintenance works without dia

[gfrank]

has been published in the official gazette the decree amending law of the single text on the building previews the elimination of the obligation of denunciation of beginning activity (dia) for the operations of extraordinary maintenance.

from today, therefore, the small building activity is no longer subject to the control of the municipal administration. will no longer be required to contact a technician enabled to perform extraordinary maintenance operations, unless they concern the structural parts of the building.

the exemption will cover internal works to an apartment, provided that the bearing walls have not moved, the surface or volume of the apartment has not increased and no more real estate units are established in one or, vice versa, resulting in a fragmentation of the real estate unit in several units.

the norm should be operational at the time of publication in gazette. the doubt comes from the diction "higher restrictive provisions provided for by regional discipline". In fact, the measure is only applicable in regions where the god has already been abolished. In all other cases, the provision is not applicable as regional rules provide for the dia for extraordinary maintenance operations, so the most restrictive rule is already in force.

the regions where the simplifications of the decree will apply are:

abruzzo, basilicata, calabria, marche, molise, puglia, that do not have a more restrictive regional legislation, besides sardegna and friuli venezia giulia where the norm is already in force.

in the regions of Campania, Emilia Romagna, Lazio, Liguria, lombardia, Piedmont, Tuscany, Trentino, Umbria, Sicily, val d'aosta, Veneto, where more restrictive regional legislation is in force, the decree is not yet applicable

source:http://www.edilone.it/_attualita__x_4382.html

 

[gfrank]

A dl amendment cancels the obligation to comply with the most restrictive regional rules.
Project and technical report by a technician enabled to attach to communication are still necessary.
This would solve all the doubts and differences between regions without a law on this subject and those with their own law in which the obligation to give


source:http://www.edilportale.com/news/201...a-sorpassate-le-leggi-regionali_18707_15.html

 

[roberto]

attention to this new norm.. .

for us technicians increases by far the responsibility. also the duration and the fact that there is no longer a final test condemns us to life on the works that the client could make even irregular or very irregular...:frown:

 

[gfrank]

No.
d.l. "disappears" (unless you appoint it)
the communication is made by the owner, who has the obligation to attach the technical elaborates signed by a professional.
the municipalities receive the practice that is stored.
not being the appointment of the dl the sole manager is the propietario and the executive enterprise.

 

[roberto]

Well, that would be beautiful.

If we sign a project with a relationship, we will have to have some responsibility. .

even if the law in question does not impose penalties for technicians, then there is always all the legislation in force that comes from the window when necessary. in case of "penal" case for example.. .

other thing. If at the presentation of a dia you found a enough integralist interlocutor could send you the difficulty if, for example, you did not have the authorization to discharge. in these cases what would happen if the commune found that the communication concerns a real estate unit not perfectly in order? If he can't stop you in the 30 days with the god, should he send you the carabinieri? !

 

[gfrank]

Well, that would be beautiful.

ok for the d.l. that is no longer there, but if we sign a project with a relationship some responsibility we will have to have.... .

the same responsibility that the designer has when, in "normal" cases, the dl is assumed/assigned to other technicians!
no, possibly responds only to design errors, not realization if difformed by the project!

.... even if the law in question does not impose penalties for the technician, then there is always all the legislation in force that comes from the window when necessary. in case of "penal" case for example.........

as above...

....other thing. If at the presentation of a dia you found a enough integralist interlocutor could send you the difficulty if, for example, you did not have the authorization to discharge. in these cases what would happen if the commune found that the communication concerns a real estate unit not perfectly in order? If he can't stop you in the 30 days with the god, should he send you the carabinieri? !

but does not there exist "the simple communication" for ordinary maintenance works?
example in lombardia if you change only the roof tiles, with the same type, mateiale, and color, just the simple communication.
if the owner replaced the tiles with aluminium panels, in case the "abuse" building is found, they come:
- suspended work by means of a delay sent by utc
- sent request to remove "abuse", or integrate the building practice with the appropriate title (dia) with administrative sanction
all to the owner

the same goes for extraordinary works without a god

 

[roberto]

It seems to me that there is no such communication in lombardy in the Lazio region. They intervened on anti-seismics by simplifying the bureaucratic process, but in the distant 1980s.

in dpr 380/2001 the p. of c. and the dia, we do not talk about communications even if in my commune, as in others, regardless of the regional discord, always ask you "at least a communication"... for the purpose. :tongue: