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[Elio01]

Good morning, my name is helium and I just signed up.
use solidworks for 2-3 years (currently 2019-2) and among the various things there is also the design of continuous facades (usually to mounts and beams).
I have seen that the subject has been extensively dealt with before and I would not like to add further questions already addressed. my request is to know if there is someone who has already experience in this field of construction with this software, with which to confront me to understand which is the fastest and most versatile approach in design (structure system rather than various profile assemblies) in order to get the cutting lists with the various references of each element for subsequent laying.
Thank you for your attention.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

continuous facade design

I never heard it as a term, would you explain to me what it means and what it is?

this construction industry with this software

What sector are you talking about?

in order to get the cutting lists with the various references of each element for subsequent laying.

I would like to thank the rapporteur for his work.

an example image would be useful to understand what you are talking about

 

[Elio01]

in the building field, the continuous facades are the windows that delimit the outer surface of the buildings. are made up of pillars and beams joined together by dedicated accessories. inside the various mirrors obtained from the grid, elements are inserted in glass opening or fixed.
I'll train you a ss to make you understand.
I also use a software dedicated to the construction of locks and facades, which is already set to give all the data for the production (orgadata logical), but in case of complex solutions or with attacks to the special masonry, the cad included in the software I find it a little 'limited and still works in 2d.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Now the context is clearer.
solidworks is predominantly a mechanical cad, although like all medium-range cads it lends itself to various uses.
if you have been using solidworks for some years you already know that there is multibody modeling with its cutting distinct and that you can model it in a top-down way that is contextual within the axieme.
you can create a custom library of profiles that are used in the construction field (as in mechanics you use upn, ipe, angles...) which I imagine are the shaped profiles of aluminum that you will use with the functions of structural elements.
You can also create library functions for those repetitive actions such as standard element drilling (thinking hinges for example) and also a standard component library that you can assign smart constraints.
as said solidworks is not born for construction, but with a little well organized management work you can make it performing.

 

[Elio01]

in fact the work you see on video is done like this. I tried with the system structures, very fast to realize the elements but then more complex to perform the grooves of the various pieces. I think I will continue with "traditional" structures. have you appointed library drilling functions, do you refer to menu drilling tools or advanced functions that I do not know? I was currently using parts or blocks that act as a dime for cavities.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

in fact the work you see video is done so

I don't see any linked videos. . .

I tried with the system structures, very fast to realize the elements but then more complex to perform the grooves of the various pieces

Do you have an example of groove?
have you appointed library drilling functions, do you refer to menu drilling tools or advanced functions that I do not know?
I refer to library elements that dragged into the model perform the function after indications of some conditional parameters (you can see an example by opening the bread task and looking in the folder design library keys or seats for elastic rings. library functions are not only cutting, but also material addition

 

[Elio01]

I don't see any linked videos. . . I was wrong, I meant the pictures I had already posted.

I imagined that there was something similar to a macro that performs various programmable user functions.
You opened me a world! Thank you.
I had to look for the folder manually and put it in the bread task, it wasn't there. I would say that I can now proceed in this direction. Just tell me one thing, what determines what needs to be removed and what should be added?
I imagine that the make-up is in the first body of the function, the internal processes to the body are in removal and any extrusions from the body are in addition.
I send you an image of a knot with a typical workmanship, just for your opinion.
the node is created in one part so as to manage the parameters of the distances of the various elements.
I guess we can't make a single solution both the holes on both bodies, and the dig of element 2, I think it would be removed material from profile 1. I could perform the two profiles on two different parts, but in that case I would not have the handles of the ends automatically.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I imagined that there was something similar to a macro that performs various programmable user functions.

I never talked about macro. library functions I'm not macro.

Just tell me one thing, what determines what needs to be removed and what should be added?

in what?

I imagine that the make-up is in the first body of the function, the internal processes to the body are in removal and any extrusions from the body are in addition.

the functions with the library symbol are marked with an l in the feature manager 8see image); If you make a cut the function will remove material, if you do an extrusion the function will add material.

I guess you can't do it in a single solution both the holes on both bodies, and the dig of element 2, I think it would be removed material even from profile 1. I could perform the two profiles on two different parts, but in that case I would not have the handles of the ends automatically.

if you can do it in a single function in traditional modeling you can do it even with library functions; this of the example not because it has different diameter holes and a cut that includes them.
you can make a library function for holes where variable parameters can be interassesed and distance from profile edge and one for profile cutting.
However the library function must streamline the work on operations that require some time; so if to do the dig with the library function, which with a normal function do in 1 minute little, you must then add relationships, insert variables is not worth it.
by memory I do not remember if it is possible to discriminate the body to cut.

as I have previously written, a weighted analysis of the utility and usability of library functions should be made.
remaining on the example of the node, it is useless to create a function for cutting the profile if you have to enter the function to discriminate the body to be cut, while it makes sense to make a function for the holes that are repeated on all the knots, perhaps configured (like the seats for elastic rings to understand) so as to decide type of screw 8 therefore all the measures of the hole already ready ) and position

I hope I've been clear enough

 

[Elio01]

waiting for your answer I did some evidence and everything comes back.
Thank you very much for your help.