first-use advice (process technologist information)

[Tico88]

good evening, I am new to the forum and I hope it is the right section..I finished in July the specialist and I am about to look out for the world of work.I had two proposals from very different sectors and very different from that in which I carried out the internship or machinery for pulling sheet.

the first is by a company that realizes electric motors/alternators and the job concerns the design of the same, the second is instead the figure of process technologist for a company that deals with injection molding.They are both valid companies, at least on paper.

I honestly don't know what the tasks envisaged in the second case have made me understand that I should control parameters to optimize production,something like that. My fear is that in the vast majority of companies it is a little cognitive work (poor theoretical and very practical/experimental or a sort of management), but also suffocating, a kind of "shift shot that experiments" as someone told me. others have told me that it is one of the most technical roles and that the theory has the same weight of the practice, so I am a little confused: in practice for the role of technologist there is to study and keep up to date or go inertia , taking into account the history of the events and it is a dynamic job in which you never get bored?

Anyway I'm interested in understanding who is in the field from more than me what you think.you want what you would choose and why? I do not want to have made any wrong ideas about the figures in question.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

process technologist:http://orienter.regione.emilia-roma...rmshowschedadettagliqualifica&qualifica=18-20
www.jobbe.it/file.html?_id1=1&_id2=0000000345.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/engineering_technologist

 

[Tico88]

Good evening, thank you for the answer. some sites you recommend I have already seen them. the speech I ask myself is how much this figure responds "effectively" to what is expected. I do an example: I knew "projectists" on the paper that barely knew what a recirculation screw was while in fact they did the particularists/configurators and I knew "disegnators" on the paper that they also knew how to design and also very well, despite not returning to their duties (because on the job it seems to be a job as "executor"). So I would like to understand whether this job is more or less respected in our beautiful country for the figure in question and what. Besides, according to your direct/indirect experiences is a "monoton" job? because if it were so I would die. I know that maybe they may seem stupid questions, but I am fresh of academy unfortunately and I would not want to make wrong choices.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

attention you wrote

I honestly don't know what the tasks are in the second case.

from which my answer.
for the future, if you have already seen files, pages or other documentation it must be your concern to report it so that those who respond already know what you have read and do not report or explain things already known; You can never ask what you read about to integrate it.

the speech I ask myself is how much this figure responds "effectively" to what is expected

no one can tell you this because it depends on the honesty of the company or its spokesman; from the need that the company has at a certain time; from your predisposition for that job or maybe for another and then you are hijacked on the second waiting for your growth regarding the first and other dozens of cases.
what you can do in a case where if hired as a designer you find to clean cutters is to clarify with the superiors the situation and ask that the contract be respected and in the meantime learn to learn from what turns around you.
if the job of the technologist is a mix between designer, analysis times and methods and quality control you can live it as a routine job filling cards, making phone calls to the suppliers, analyzing data or turning to the workshop and looking how to tool a machine, things build a soldering blade, as you do a milling pass, making you explain by pro suppliers and against certain choices, discussing with the workers and noticing you
even make the designer can be a monotonous work, you just have to pull lines and put quotas, but if you do it by trying a new command, comparing you with the colleague on a tolerance, thinking also how it should be built then it is no longer so monotonous

 

[haga78]

I'll do the cynic. what did they offer you? what business size we talk about (srl/spa, employee number, turnover...)?
because it's good that it can be the job but if you don't bring the bread home it's hard.

 

[Tico88]

Good morning, I re-entry massive for the answer.

with regard to the contract is 5 metalmechanical level, it is a srl and are more than 50 people (I do not know the exact number, I am based on what I saw). turnover exceeds 10 million euros. I would go to work in the brands (closer to mine) so I wouldn't have to go to the north (other company). but I am not a nostalgic/sentimental, it is not enough my choice on this (also because I would not go to the North America anyway).

 

[meccanicamg]

I wonder, but in the lazio... near you, there are no companies that manufacture, build, do they?

 

[haga78]

Good morning, I re-entry massive for the answer.

with regard to the contract is 5 metalmechanical level, it is a srl and are more than 50 people (I do not know the exact number, I am based on what I saw). turnover exceeds 10 million euros. I would go to work in the brands (closer to mine) so I wouldn't have to go to the north (other company). but I am not a nostalgic/sentimental, it is not enough my choice on this (also because I would not go to the North America anyway).

as a starting point is not bad, both from the contractual point of view (to realize that many companies offer internships, project contracts, false matches etc...) and for the company size (a company of that size represents a good professional "palestra".

Then a job contract is not a wedding, you can always keep looking around and change your way if you have the opportunity.

The only problem is the fact that you have to transfer, which will inevitably lead you to living costs such as rent and travel expenses (made two accounts, see how much these costs are).

 

[Meteor02]

the technologist if done well must always be updated on the innovations of the field, this requires to constantly study the new solutions introduced in the field . then it is to the company to let grow its technologist paying fairs meating and various presentations. knowledge of injection moulding and subsequent processing is indispensable. is a figure that can grow in experience very quickly but the molding industry is quite unique is the experiences made not always are transferable to other sectors after a few years you feel a little "prisoners" of the industry

 

[Tico88]

I wonder, but in the lazio... near you, there are no companies that manufacture, build, do they?

good evening, I tried to send questions and someone answered me, but they didn't give me a good impression. They looked like the classic companies in which to satisfy the peaks of orders or to take incentives from the region exploit the first one that happens by taking care of what you know or what you might learn (in the sense that they didn't look for "the person" but "a person"). for which I honestly prefer to go on something more certain at the level of probability (at least on the basis of my impressions, then we are all in the hands of the lord... for various vicissitudes I also graduated to 30 years (very late), so time I do not want or can lose.. at this point the "south" I would avoid it regardless, given the mentality of the average cabbage of entrepreneurs (I have different in family and so I know something). ..certainty finding the job of dreams under the house would be ideal but I think it is pure utopia (otherwise because hundreds of people every month migrate out?).

the technologist if done well must always be updated on the innovations of the field, this requires to constantly study the new solutions introduced in the field . then it is to the company to let grow its technologist paying fairs meating and various presentations. knowledge of injection moulding and subsequent processing is indispensable. is a figure that can grow in experience very quickly but the molding industry is quite unique is the experiences made not always are transferable to other sectors after a few years you feel a little "prisoners" of the industry

a question about this, I thought about this and I also read some other posts..but, although being a niche sector, finding work in another company in the same sector I don't think it is as complicated as making engineer in a company that produces only and exclusively "vele per velieri" or "explosives at a distance" (I don't think there are so many)... i.e. if you are professionalized and there is not well

 

[Meteor02]

Once experience migrating to other companies is difficult, but you stay in the same sector, if you stop passionate about the nn outlets there are so many.