freecad will eliminate in a few years the empire of 3d parametric cads for a fee?

[meccanicamg]

Does freecad work with linux?
Okay. at the end or with donations or with purchase of special packages the money must pay them.
about the other open surce software mentioned above.. If you use them to work and you get an original excel file ..you already have problems and you always lose something.

works on everything except Android and iPhone.

 

[meccanicamg]

in this case the gain would be:

1) if I am a user I make a donation that still costs me less than buying licenses of a propietario software.

2) if I am a developer I can sell services (assistance, courses, etc.) rather than licenses, or develop additional modules for a fee.

if you think about linux, libreoffice, egroupware is open source software but on which many people earn the salary.

with libreoffice you have almost complete compatibility with excel. clearly if you have macros with vba then you have problems. the latest versions are much more compatible.
Then it depends on what you have to do.

 

[meccanicamg]

Does freecad work with linux?
Okay. at the end or with donations or with purchase of special packages the money must pay them.
about the other open surce software mentioned above.. If you use them to work and you get an original excel file ..you already have problems and you always lose something.

freecad donation is on a voluntary basis.
You don't have to pay.
However all its modules are free. otherwise it would lose its main feature.

 

[Vittorio]

I'm not against these open surce software, but the question I always ask is:
What do I do?
in the workplace if they give me an excel file with macros and I can't use it.. bhe can't work with an open surce
if I pass a file step ok.. It's all right and then I return it in modified step.
dxf is fine, there's no problem.
dwg.. There may be problems with dynamic blocks here.
if you pass me a file of soloworks- inventor-solid-edge, catia ,nx and want it returned with the same format , you do not escape: or buy the software or do not work.
to return to the title of the discussion.
in this jungle of software I do not believe there absolutely that freecad will eliminate all the existing cads
If that happens, then there will be good chances for a world without wars and with equal rights for all living beings.

 

[cacciatorino]

about the other open surce software mentioned above.. If you use them to work and you get an original excel file ..you already have problems and you always lose something.

freecad works with both linux and windows.

the compatibility problems with excel derive precisely from the fact that the format is closed, which is made specifically to make life difficult to competitors. therefore the fault is of the greed of the microsoft (in this specific case), not in the incompetence of the developers of libreoffice. if then a company decides to standardize on a certain file format then it no longer has all these problems.
I managed to live (and bill) until 5-6 years ago without having ms-office, which then eventually I had to buy for compatibility with an important customer, but it is one or two macros in everything, that he could easily implement on libreoffice if he wanted.

 

[cacciatorino]

I'm not against these open surce software, but the question I always ask is:
What do I do?
in the workplace if they give me an excel file with macros and I can't use it.. bhe can't work with an open surce
if I pass a file step ok.. It's all right and then I return it in modified step.
dxf is fine, there's no problem.
dwg.. There may be problems with dynamic blocks here.
if you pass me a file of soloworks- inventor-solid-edge, catia ,nx and want it returned with the same format , you do not escape: or buy the software or do not work.
to return to the title of the discussion.
in this jungle of software I do not believe there absolutely that freecad will eliminate all the existing cads
If that happens, then there will be good chances for a world without wars and with equal rights for all living beings.

freecad will be a cad among others. I don't understand your anger to say that as not pay then it's not good. so far the only negative examples you have managed to give are on file format compatibility, but that is a problem of all cads, source closed or open. is not that solidworks is more freecad compatible if I have to manage pro/e files, to say.

 

[Stefano_GS]

I think the question is: how much freecad could it reduce costs for a pmi?
if I buy for example solidworks (but it applies to all paid cases) I pay the license and considering the updates I will have xk€ every year, then I pay the training and maintenance of the training, then I pay any implementations and tools required to the developers.

with freecad I delete the first item of cost and keep the others.
if the market of auxiliary services develops sufficiently to offer competences comparable to those of the cad " cry" and at similar costs then I bring home a real saving.

then obvious that if I'm related to a specific case for a customer this post loses its value, but one tomorrow could also apply to freecad. if my client uses freecad and I inventor will also have to adopt freecad

 

[Vittorio]

Of course, the ideal would be that all designers use freecad, would be the maximum for data exchange.
I doubt very much that counting on voluntary donations you get a better software than those existing and specific for certain needs different from the 4 Boolean operations and put on the table.
It is also necessary to deal with software designers moving from one software-house to another bringing new algorithms and certainly not the salary is paid by voluntary donations.
Basically there will always be software that will do something more than the other.. and after a month you turn the situation, the other exceeds the previous one.
and if you need a feature that speeds up your work buys the best.
This thing also happens in the cam world.
However if what we hope will happen, I will begin to believe again in christmas.

ps: I am convinced that the thing that makes the world turn and the economy is diversity

 

[Vittorio]

freecad will be a cad among others. I don't understand your anger to say that as not pay then it's not good. so far the only negative examples you have managed to give are about compatibility de

I didn't say it's not good. If you're a freecad developer, I apologize for giving you this impression.
My doubts are just lawful because everything has a cost.

 

[Vittorio]

so far the only negative examples you have managed to give are on file format compatibility, but that is a problem of all cad, source closed or bee

I have to be honest .. I have messed up little with freecad and stopped because I found limits for the type of my work.
you definitely know it better than me and if you found that for your needs to use freecad or solid-edge is the same thing but at zero cost.. Then, in your case, it is right to prodigal.
I close my participation in the discussion and reconnect to the title of the discussion:freecad will eliminate in a few years the empire of 3d parametric cads for a fee?I say no

 

[wert]

I have browsed this discussion with interest and would like to add an aspect that could open a new scenario. and if instead of donations, it is shown advertising every time, as in many interesting apps? then you can decide to eliminate them by paying, but also not. If you decide to keep advertising, how would you see it, if for example, during modeling, a 15-second ad every 10 minutes came out? (types put as an example). This way you could have the sustainability by developers and have economic benefits for users. then if advertising was targeted, it could even become useful to users... p. s. I have never used freecad and maybe this advertising thing already there is... in that case, excuse my ignorance.

 

[meccanicamg]

I have browsed this discussion with interest and would like to add an aspect that could open a new scenario. and if instead of donations, it is shown advertising every time, as in many interesting apps? then you can decide to eliminate them by paying, but also not. If you decide to keep advertising, how would you see it, if for example, during modeling, a 15-second ad every 10 minutes came out? (types put as an example). This way you could have the sustainability by developers and have economic benefits for users. then if advertising was targeted, it could even become useful to users... p. s. I have never used freecad and maybe this advertising thing already there is... in that case, excuse my ignorance.

for now this annoying practice does not exist on this cad and I hope it does not come to mind to anyone to implement the thing. it would also be outside the current spirit of freeca itself.

 

[wert]

for now this annoying practice does not exist on this cad and I hope it does not come to mind to anyone to implement the thing. it would also be outside the current spirit of freeca itself.

ah of course, it would be better free, without interruptions and continuous development... But as I also believe that free can not continue forever, I tried to understand if there was no solution that saves goats and cabbages. then, as I wrote, if the advertising was targeted at the scope where everyone operates, it could also be useful. .

 

[x11start]

for freecad there is a small group of programmers (it seems 5 or 6 people) that takes almost full time. These are people chosen among those who have demonstrated better ability, continuity and seriousness in contributions that have given software development. among these stands yorik van havre, a Brazilian architect (yorik's blog) that from 2008 to today has improved considerably freecad, creating from scratch the modules techdraw and architect. This small group is compensated by fair distribution of what is given to this purpose on freecad's profile - liberapay

 

[flaviobrio88]

It seems strange to me to work full-time living only of donations

 

[x11start]

It seems strange to me to work full-time living only of donations

If you had the chance to look at Yarik's blog, you'll surely understand that he uses it "full time" for his work as an architect... and in the meantime it improves by planning new functions in python, satisfying the needs that arise daily. I've been doing something similar for years with the autocad lisp. even if with far lower results. However I must say that when I was forced (changed work), to be able to use only autocad lt.... I tried an unimaginable frustration. Fortunately I managed to convince my new boss to buy gstarcad so I could reuse all my "loved lisp"!

 

[flaviobrio88]

If you had the chance to look at Yarik's blog, you'll surely understand that he uses it "full time" for his work as an architect... and in the meantime it improves by planning new functions in python, satisfying the needs that arise daily. I've been doing something similar for years with the autocad lisp. even if with far lower results. However I must say that when I was forced (changed work), to be able to use only autocad lt.... I tried an unimaginable frustration. Fortunately I managed to convince my new boss to buy gstarcad so I could reuse all my "loved lisp"!

Well, the speech changes, I thought she lived with donations, but instead she developed macros to facilitate her work. when you said "for freecad there is a small group of programmers (it seems 5 or 6 people) who take care of it almost full time" in your first speech you referred to the development of the software, so it seemed strange that one lived only of donations

 

[Viki681]

even if I talk old I say mine.
I have a technical study and I use it fairly simple, essentially 2d. rare 3d and here I can also use free.

for work however I need a serious cad, not a work in progress .
I have to import and export different versions. . read others cad.
I don't have much time and I'll pass it if I can study laws and new products.
thinking of using a fragile cad developing for me is unthinkable.
who does it has time to lose in my opinion.
better a bought cad, maybe not the original autocad but still with assistance.

 

[flaviobrio88]

even if I talk old I say mine.
I have a technical study and I use it fairly simple, essentially 2d. rare 3d and here I can also use free.

for work however I need a serious cad, not a work in progress .
I have to import and export different versions. . read others cad.
I don't have much time and I'll pass it if I can study laws and new products.
thinking of using a fragile cad developing for me is unthinkable.
who does it has time to lose in my opinion.
better a bought cad, maybe not the original autocad but still with assistance.

all cads are work in progress

 

[+forte]

I would like to know how much I have to do, and how much I have to do, how much I have to do, how much I have to do, how much I have to do, how much I have to do, how much I have to do it, how much I have to do it.