geometric tolerance on together

[scili]

Dearest,
I came to Friday night and still haven't solved a problem that I've been having since this morning; I've got a stupid set, made up of a snooped hazel inside a mouthpiece. in the hazelnut there is a asymmetrical profile and I defined one of the axes of this profile as a reference.
Now I want to add a concentric tolerance of the outer surface of the bushing compared to the axis of the hazelnut, but proe (vers. 3.0) does not agree with me because it wants for force that tolerated surface and reference belong to the same model.
are there proposals on how to make it reason?
Thank you so much!

 

[simone1996]

hi, not use proe, use inventor, you could convert this together to one part. on inventor is called simplified part.

 

[simone omi]

Dearest,
I came to Friday night and still haven't solved a problem that I've been having since this morning; I've got a stupid set, made up of a snooped hazel inside a mouthpiece. in the hazelnut there is a asymmetrical profile and I defined one of the axes of this profile as a reference.
Now I want to add a concentric tolerance of the outer surface of the bushing compared to the axis of the hazelnut, but proe (vers. 3.0) does not agree with me because it wants for force that tolerated surface and reference belong to the same model.
are there proposals on how to make it reason?
Thank you so much!

you have from the menu examines --> updated model - updated sheets - updated 2d . updated drawing view. if you have modified a part and do not do this procedure does not allow you to quote it, (this is valid for I create 4-0)

 

[scili]

you have from the menu examines --> updated model - updated sheets - updated 2d . updated drawing view. if you have modified a part and do not do this procedure does not allow you to quote it, (this is valid for I create 4-0)

thanks for the answer; My problem is that, whatever you try to do, proe always answers me that "the reference does not act as a referent".
I have now solved with a horrible force using the notes in the box, let's say I'm okay if the odds are one or two to force like this, only that I don't understand why the thing is not feasible.
I also get the result if the tolerance I want to create it in the environment together.
the model and the sheets are all updated, the reference I created it already in modeling of the part.
I am doubtful that he cannot manage this thing to have a reference for a tollg that is not in the part to which the tollg refers.

 

[scili]

hi, not use proe, use inventor, you could convert this together to one part. on inventor is called simplified part.

thanks for the answer; Unfortunately, I do not think that proe has this possibility, and I would not be comfortable because I have several very similar together that I can manage quite simply by making a saving by name, I do not know if such a conversion allows me to maintain the simplicity of management that I have now.

 

[320i S]

There must be something that doesn't work, I never happened to refuse a geometric tolerance of concentricity together.