germania vs catia ?

[tvi71it]

Good morning, everyone.
last night talking to a former colleague who works at an interior design studio car, told me that in germany the main car manufacturers, first of all mercedes and apparently also bmw (of volkswagen did not come to him voices), are evaluating the abandonment of caia to pass to unigraphics.
This former colleague uses unigraphics, and his supplier of ug, he would have (and here the conditional is obligatory) said that with mercedes the passage to ug would be practically done, while bmw would be in the evaluation phase.
the explanation of this upheaval, beyond the technical peculiarities of each of the two systems, would be linked mainly to the fact that ug is owned siemens, therefore German as the car manufacturers in question, and in this difficult period it would be squared to facilitate the enterprises of its own nation.
Is something like that or is it just the usual gossip?
I'm curious!
hello and good day.

 

[gil]

I don't know, but I'm not surprised, the Germans are nationalists. would be in line with their general economic lines.
on the contrary we Italians tend to delocalize everything as long as costs less.

 

[mcbramby]

Mah... Turning all the know-how from catia to unigrafics seems to me an enterprise, cmq the Germans could start to do so . . . . . . . . . will give a lot of work to many young people .

 

[gil]

I found this news that would confirm what your acquaintance said:http://www.deelip.com/?p=4878However it is from 2010 and it is said that they planned to start the software change from 2012. At this time the crucks should already have started, otherwise it's just talk.

 

[falonef]

Yes, but this news has been known for a couple of years.
I have knowledge in germany and everything has been communicated openly.

I'm surprised at this post...

 

[IB-Motorsport]

for three years that in mercedes have passed from catia to nx; I have friends who work there.
they will also pass audio-vw and bmw to hear the colleagues who work there, already opel being gm is on that platform;
in Italy will pass also lamborghini now catia+ptc to nx and ferrari; Duchy of Audi
It's been on nx for years.

 

[cacciatorino]

for three years that in mercedes have passed from catia to nx; I have friends who work there.
they will also pass audio-vw and bmw to hear the colleagues who work there, already opel being gm is on that platform;
in Italy will pass also lamborghini now catia+ptc to nx and ferrari; Duchy of Audi
It's been on nx for years.

Do you have any idea the reasons for this mass migration? siemens' sync tech? Hasn't catia v6 been transposed? Anything else?

such an important and generalized change must have very strong reasons.

 

[Vittorio]

Good evening, everyone.

I have some white hair and these news are not new that feed uncertainties and doubts on what to choose.

Unfortunately, commecials can condition the choices of a software, obscuring the technical sides.

The French are also nationalists.. and I doubt that the psa group and its induced abandonment catia. I just received an email where they inform us that we have to adapt to v5-r22.

then there are also aviation poles colossus boing and for Italy, agusta, aermacchi , have many platforms with catia v5 and still some in caia v4.
Sometimes, automotive groups, start a project of a new car with new platforms.
for example the v-w group is making a new car with v6 catia. and not by chance, the dassault created the v5-r22 version perfectly compatible with v6.
if they start a project with a platform. They must guarantee the continuation until the abandonment of the production itself of the car.
also happens in the aerospace industry. I know for certain that a helicopter designed with v4 chain. It will always be modified or improved, in its project, with catia v4.
until "death" reaches him

I mean, there's a lot of chaos and it'd be great if we all used the same software.

 

[gil]

a person tries to do an analysis and intervene commercially from all sides who believe they have to defend their product. mha...

 

[RS4]

regarding the bmw there was this discussion passage to the v6 platformhttp://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?24500-bmw-integrazione-plm-v6

jaguarhttp: //www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthr...igns-strategic-partnership-dascalul-syst%8mesmclaren mercedeshttp: //www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthr...ercedes-puta-sulusione-v6-di-dascalul-syst%es

 

[IB-Motorsport]

would it be nice that everyone used the same software? ...uhmmm it would be nice that a large open source project might be born of medium-range created for medium-sized companies contained 3d modeling, tables, assemblies, bom, sheeet metal, fem and cfd integrated and maybe an associated pdm ... this on one hand would bring in crisis time many small companies and studies to save on licenses and maintenance ... from the other would bring the big systems nx, catia, politics
So I think it... Maybe all about a nice linux!

 

[marcof]

a person tries to do an analysis and intervene commercially from all sides who believe they have to defend their product. mha...

do you refer to commercial interventions in this thread? Where?

 

[Vittorio]

a person tries to do an analysis and intervene commercially from all sides who believe they have to defend their product. mha...

Hello gil
I have not understood your consideration who are the commercials?

 

[tvi71it]

Yes, but this news has been known for a couple of years.
I have knowledge in germany and everything has been communicated openly.

I'm surprised at this post...

Hello, falonef,
I am part of a small reality and despite the heads of work for the aforementioned German companies with catia, I have never had the opportunity to compare myself with commercials that define strategies of choice and purchase of software. I had read here and there any hypothesis of passage to nx, then I reached that voice and then I took advantage of the forum in which people certainly intervene more informed than subscribed.
thanks to all for the info.