gestione files .ctb

[BATTMAN]

Good morning to all,

my second message, my second question.. :smile:

I need to create different .ctb files for almost every design I work on. (autocad 2012).

to avoid having large amounts of .ctb files in the folder "acad printtiles" do ctrl+c on the affected file and take it directly into the autocad file, which generates an ole object that does not bother anyone.

I remember that with old versions of autocad, at the time of printing, I just had to select the ole object inside the autocad window, make ctrl+c and paste into the folder "acad printtiles".

Unfortunately, from some releases to this part, this is no longer possible, because once pasted the file in the appropriate folder, there is no more to open it.

if I click twice on the ole object in the windows folder, the message "impossible to read. unknown version" etc.
If I take it in the styles folder and do not open it, when I launch the print window, the ctb does not appear in the print style list.
If they select the ctb in the dwg file and right-ole-open click, I get an absurd "crea package" window.

the only way I have to use it is to double-click the ole file (directly inside the dwg), and save it by name.
the problem is that, before I can open it, I have to double-click it over for about ten times, when it's okay, it's gone a lot more.

Are you aware of this problem? did you manage to solve it?

Thank you very much

greetings

Mysteries

 

[Cristallo]

Of course it's solved.
Just put the print styles where they have to stay, that is in the ctb folder.
but what procedure is, to paste a ctb into the dwg? use dwg as a container of files that should be on disk? Bah!

 

[BATTMAN]

What you didn't understand about the part:

"I need to create different .ctb files for almost every design I work on. (autocad 2012).

to avoid having large amounts of .ctb files ..."

Forgive me if I'm a little disrespectful, but you did.
if you don't have a useful comment to solve my problem.. .

 

[numero1]

Well, battman:confused, don't take it, but I don't think anyone who's meant to be autocad, expert or not, here on the forum has been faced with such a problem.
It's not even a place.

1) on each pc you work on, and on which you have the sw (in the office), keep the ctb.
2) Of course you will have the same path for each pc.
3) This path can also be customized, for example by order.
Obviously for every pc, but it's one thing you do once at the beginning of the job.

a ctb weighs very little, so the fact of having them on record what it entails?
What are your difficulties?
I add that your sentence: "I need to create different .ctb files for almost every design on which I work" is a practice that almost all of us have found ourselves in our working life.
I hope, however, that you will mean for every job, and not for every single single drawing of that contract. :frown:

at most there could be 2/3 ctb.
one for plants for example, and another for sections, and another for ................ .
For the rest, I think none of us work like this, but I think I can say that Nobody. work like this; You're the first person I've ever heard of, no offense.

But now I tell you what is why I think you resort to such an eye.
When you send out the dwg to get it printed you'll also attach the ctb, right?
well instead having the ctb "incorporated" inside the dwg avoid this, it is done to say, problem.
Is that it?

Hi.

 

[sircame]

I have read several times the post of batman, but honestly I can't understand what the problem is.. .
we at work have personalised the folder of the ctb that is now on the server, so we all have the same ctb, but even if they are many then from the window you call them with the first letters of the keyboard.

I can't understand what centers with ctb.

 

[BATTMAN]

Thank you for your concern.
I just needed to know if someone had the same hitch and if he solved it.
I didn't seem necessary to explain why we work this way, anyway:

Unfortunately I confirm that almost every single design that we prepare has its dedicated ctb.

the drawings we print them in the office, but, as it says number1, incorporate the ctb ha (also) the usefulness of making our customers have the necessary print styles so that they can print them from whom they want. drawings are also handled by people who are not familiar with cad (capicommessa, understandingparto, etc.), so reduces the risk of losing data on the street. I have 30 dwg, I send 30 files and not 60. if the headcommittee must turn 10 to one person, 20 to another etc.. I don't force him to waste time looking for the right combinations.
We infiltrate them inside the dwg, who will have to print them if they are already available, others do not notice anything.

as we generate ctb for almost every single file (I have already said it? :redface It is evident that, once the work is finished, printed and delivered the files, most of these ctbs will no longer serve us. Why keep hundreds and hundreds of ctb in a folder, if most will not serve me anymore?

I think I understand that no one knows how to solve our problem,
Thank you anyway. .

 

[PlannerRoad]

there is no solution you want for ctb.
the only alternative is not to use neither ctb nor stb. setting everything in the layer settings of each window (organizing with layers of course, but this regardless of methodology). in that case just send the drawings with the layouts already ready to be printed without the need for print styles.

 

[numero1]

Thank you for your concern.
I just needed to know if someone had the same hitch and if he solved it.
I didn't seem necessary to explain why we work this way, anyway:

Unfortunately I confirm that almost every single design that we prepare has its dedicated ctb.

I'm sorry but... What kind of drawings do you make?

the drawings we print them in the office, but, as it says number1, incorporate the ctb ha (also) the usefulness of making our customers have the necessary print styles so that they can print them from whom they want. drawings are also handled by people who are not familiar with cad (capicommessa, understandingparto, etc.), so reduces the risk of losing data on the street. I have 30 dwg, I send 30 files and not 60. if the headcommittee must turn 10 to one person, 20 to another etc.. I don't force him to waste time looking for the right combinations.
We infiltrate them inside the dwg, who will have to print them if they are already available, others do not notice anything.

I've got it right.
I won what?? ?
jokes aside all of us had problems with people who have little or no familiarity with the cad, but we still solved by sending 60 files.
Moreover, on the other side of the supply chain, there should always be at least that you understand a little cad.

as we generate ctb for almost every single file (I have already said it? :redface It is evident that, once the work is finished, printed and delivered the files, most of these ctbs will no longer serve us. Why keep hundreds and hundreds of ctb in a folder, if most will not serve me anymore?

Well I have come to have hundreds and hundreds of ctb, accumulated over the years; Then when you think too many have become you create a folder with the old-ctb name and slam them in there.
so you'll have your nice clean folder apart from that old subfolder you just created.

I think I understand that no one knows how to solve our problem,
Thank you anyway. .

Please, but...... it's a false problem in my own way.
I'm sorry I can't do +

 

[GP.]

abnormal procedure, but everyone has their own needs.

I tried... by curiosity, the ctb glued in a pc with win7x64 is not open (impossible to read. unknown version), glued into a pc with xpx32 is opened regularly.

However... it seems that you can resolve not by collating the ctb, but by opening it directly from the dwg (double click on the ole object) and then by making a "Save with name".

 

[Cristallo]

what I really find difficult to understand is how a company (or professional) produce a design and dedicates a special ctb that after that design will no longer serve anything.
I can understand it more if the drawings are receive (Everyone works in his own way and you are the collector of others' work). but if you produce them and you also care to attach them so that the recipient can print them of his, well, he does a single ctb, man.
for those who do not understand the problem is trivial. makes a print preview and click on apply to the layout. from that moment the ctb is connected to the dwg, although not resided in the drawing.
Otherwise... is worth the suggestion of plannerroad (but imagine doing it for every single design. . . )

 

[PlannerRoad]

...otherwise... worth the suggestion of plannerroad (but imagine doing it for every single design. . . )

if, however, he organizes a basic stardard for the layers for all the drawings, organizing them well, at the end with the use he will be able to do it automatically almost.

 

[BATTMAN]

abnormal procedure, but everyone has their own needs.

I tried... by curiosity, the ctb glued in a pc with win7x64 is not open (impossible to read. unknown version), glued into a pc with xpx32 is opened regularly.

Who knows that the problem is not exactly related to win7.. I will try with a pc on which we still have xp.. :finger:

However... it seems that you can resolve not by collating the ctb, but by opening it directly from the dwg (double click on the ole object) and then by making a "Save with name".

It's just what we're doing, but it's often double-clicking for a long time before autocad opens the ctb!

what I really find difficult to understand is how a company (or professional) produce a design and dedicates a special ctb that after that design will no longer serve anything.
I can understand it more if the drawings are receive...

the fact is right there.. often drawings that productioniamo are developed using as the basis of the designs developed by others, which in turn use as the basis of the designs developed by others, etc. This happens when you deal with extensions of plants (not really small) that exist for several years and that are constantly evolving. .

I ask you not to dwell on "because we work like this", everyone has developed his method, with his pros and cons. .
I wanted to understand if the problem I mentioned happens only to us or even to those who have had the desire and patience to make a test (grazie gp !!).
Sometimes you're so used to doing things the same way you don't notice how much a little trick is enough to solve a problem. .
and that's why maybe some of you, in four-eighth, might find the hippo. .

thanks again, a Everybody! :finger:

 

[numero1]

cut.........
the fact is right there.. often drawings that productioniamo are developed using as the basis of the designs developed by others, which in turn use as the basis of the designs developed by others, etc. This happens when you deal with extensions of plants (not really small) that exist for several years and that are constantly evolving. .

I ask you not to dwell on "because we work like this", everyone has developed his method, with his pros and cons. .
cut......... .

All right, let's not argue about "because we work like this", and also agree that everyone has developed his method, with his pros and cons.
But my work is very similar to yours, sometimes we are at the top of the chain, sometimes we are in the middle, but in any case we don't work like that.
maybe the type of plants is different............ .
Hi.