help crane size tips for small truck

[odisseo 18]

Hello, excuse the bizarre question, a friend of mine has seen that the cantonieri trucks are equipped, of a swivel crane incardinata to the mountaineer and the traverse of the cassons of these vehicles and would like to realize a similar device for his truck .the measures of the cassone are: 3,50, wide 2,10, height sponds 50 cm. are manual, like the flags of the scaffolding tanks. some suggestions. I should carry out the carriages to attach the flag to the structure of the rear paracabin and strengthen it where necessary.

what max flow could lift, would it be better to take a beautiful and made Chinese plumb? Let me know.

 

[meccanicamg]

Bye. It seems to me that such a question is already on the forum this year.
Keep in mind that the lifting organs must follow the dedicated regulations.
certainly building a small crane to put on a truck can be a good idea to load/download heavy items.
Certainly to do so, it is necessary to have at least a good infarination of science of buildings, to know how to model and to be able to apply a study with finite elements.
much depends then if you go to download to the ground or if you only set up on the chassis of the vehicle.

 

[odisseo 18]

I don't think you could lift large loads, you'd risk deforming or damaging the vehicle's chassis, for large loads rightly it would take the stabilizers feet to download the load to the ground.

 

[ant99]

I don't think you could lift large loads, you'd risk deforming or damaging the vehicle's chassis, for large loads rightly it would take the stabilizers feet to download the load to the ground.

Hi.
undoubtedly the first thing to understand according to me is the maximum load you want to lift and also the width of the flag, then you will have to understand how the frame is made avoiding attacking it to the paracabin.

 

[odisseo 18]

As a 2-metre arm would be excessive, taking into account that the flag should be installed right side driver, that is, passenger side anchored to the cross and to the mount of the paracabin, , 60 /70 cm as a armor, 200, 300kg maximum as a flow, in a video I saw that it lifted a quad or a water bike, which would be about 350 kg .

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[ant99]

Can you indicate the model of the medium?
I believe that, however, the best thing is a system that should arise, so as to avoid possible boredom in case of revision, controls etc.

 

[odisseo 18]

iveco daily 35 c 13 2.8 130 cv step 3450,

size and weights
Length	da 5,997 a 7,012 m
width	1,996 m
Height	2,640 m
vacuum mass	da 3,5 a 7 t

 

[ant99]

I think this is very relevant to this point. .
You should understand if you have good points that you can use directly on the box frame. I wouldn't go to charge too much that structure of the paracabin, you could risk bending the mount. You could try to exploit a system similar to that of the mechanical goat.
as it said mechanicalmg

Certainly to do so, it is necessary to have at least a good infarination of science of buildings, to know how to model and to be able to apply a study with finite elements.
much depends then if you go to download to the ground or if you only set up on the chassis of the vehicle.

I also think you should do a minimum of study to verify the resistance of the structure.

 

[odisseo 18]

you should put a reinforcement plate that connects the longherons to the beams of the frame under the light as reinforcement and possibly of the handkerchiefs that act as a shelf.

 

[ant99]

you should put a reinforcement plate that connects the longherons to the beams of the frame under the light as reinforcement and possibly of the handkerchiefs that act as a shelf.

Good morning and excuse me if I answer only now.
However I fully agree, if you can do a finite element analysis would be the top in my opinion.

 

[odisseo 18]

I have seen a nice and ready-to-mount device on the net, I must check if I can robust the platform by fixing under a sturdy plate that acts as a base of support and anchor for the lifting device, under load the crane lever, if not well fixed it could deform the cassone or worse discard and cause big damage. I have to think

https://youtu.be/bhvrgeptbvwhttps://youtu.be/lk-ohpvmj7uhttps://youtu.be/odec4eoby6y

 

[ant99]

leaving those who realize it as if it were a "gru" completely separated from the middle, then with their tripod, I would go more on a type of the first or second video, with its stiffenings.
in the second video you can see how the author has prepared a foot to download the weight on the ground or at least to enlarge the loading area. That system according to me to lift 2/300kg as you said maybe begins to serve, never more experts will surely know how to tell you better?
Anyway, if you want to be sure a fem analysis in my opinion would never hurt.

 

[ant99]

instead, leaving your arm, will you go to use a simple carbide? a chain hoist? a motor system?
I believe that this aspect should not be neglected too. . .

 

[scalva]

Okkio that Americans do what they want, but here we have the frame, it can be "touched" only according to the manufacturer's directives.
everything is okay until you stop a loot . if you then make an accident hello insurance

 

[ant99]

Okkio that Americans do what they want, but here we have the frame, it can be "touched" only according to the manufacturer's directives.
everything is okay until you stop a loot . if you then make an accident hello insurance

I had already mentioned it... But I didn't insist so much in the end, because many trucks are seen around with these systems... If the whole system is bolted, will it be removed when it is not needed or in case of revision?

 

[odisseo 18]

depends on the device, I have seen that the big cranes from truck are anchored to the chassis of the truck and lower the stabilizers feet to prevent the torsion to turn over or deform the vehicle, the small ones from cassone I have seen that they are equipped with stabilizer foot that extends before the device is activated. in any case you have to evaluate where to install the lump and strengthen the fixing area, depends on the flow and the sling of the same, the more extends the lever generates. anyway thanks for the right suggestions and osrvazioni.

 

[ant99]

Good morning, everyone!
yesterday on the net I found This video, maybe it could be another idea...
always that this lump was not already built?