help for achievement model 3d human sculpture!

[niccol86]

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Hello my name is niccolò, I am 24 years old;

I take care of contemporary art, not having experience
in the context of design or realization of 3d objects, I would be very interested in deepening the thing,

for my next exhibition I would need to make a sculpture of natural size of myself, with as particularity a kind of excrescences similar to thorns
that rise on the arms and on the neck!!! I would possibly like to make white sculpture, and with a non-excessively heavy material! !

Can any of the forum help me?? ? Is there someone who can give me a quote, and who has a 3d printer or a 3d pantograph? ?
(I apologize in advance if I asked for help in the wrong section)

Thank you.

 

[IPdesign]

hi niccol, the section is right in part.
You have to understand first of all what you have as your starting point.

If you have nothing, then you should start with making a 3d scan of yourself laser .

after that the computer processes everything with the "excrescences" that desiceri (processing with cad 3d )

at the end you find yourself with a 3d model which, in the specific case, should be decomposed or cut into pieces to be realized .

calculates that a prototyping usually has dimensions ranging from 150 x 150 x 200 mm to 250x 250 x 300mm on standard machines , reaching also 500 mm on high-end machines.

then you have to predict a componable "statua" type mannequin.

you can also opt for gluing the pieces, but everything depends on the technique used for the prototype .

One last thing, perhaps the most important price is
a real-scale man costs a proposition made as fast prototyping, sure it is worth it as technology?

 

[enri]

but given the purpose it is best to use those made with the webcam, like david laser scanner, or goes to someone who already has it, or use the freeware version, is a sculpture, what tolerance can it have? I'm sure it's low, as long as you know it's him. If you cover plaster you could use yourself, save a lot of time! :
the idea is interesting though.

 

[IPdesign]

Well, I had deliberately missed the scanning and processing phase.

remain the prohibitive costs of physical realization of the rest

I would think of the use of a technique other than the prototype, but it is very articulated.

 

[maxopus]

Also finding a marble player who can make you the piece in milling, you would spend a lot of money (serve several working days).
Please note that a 700x500 mm bas-relief can cost from 700 to 1500 euros.
to make a statue, do the appropriate proportions and add the costs of laser scanning and modeling.
spannometrically you don't have the cable with less than 5,000 euros.
also to make a silicone mold and a cast in chalk is not operation recently.

 

[niccol86]

first of all thanks for the answers...! you are very kind...

say my budget is around 1500 euros! !

where could I scan myself?!? What would it cost? ! !

the option of assembling various prototype pieces, maybe it is too articulated. . .

I would have thought of something like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmjofcydaa&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t605tffbpdm&translated=1(the second link should refer to an Italian company, I wrote it but they answered me)

I mistake one video that I linked once inserted into the program laser scanning the rest does the whole machine!? ! ?
someone can tell me if in Italy they make similar works, I would exclude marble as material as perhaps excessively expensive! !

 

[IPdesign]

posted links have made exactly what you want to do.
while the first uses foam, a thick polyurethane foam, the second uses its own white marble of carrara.
Now, the machines you saw at work are 6-axis robots.

If you go to a programmer and tell him "When you scan it does all the machine" you follow:biggrin: .

as far as I know a 3d scan of a person already steals all your budjet, between acquisition and first post treatment of points.

So I think you should resize the idea:smile:

 

[niccol86]

ok realized that for a laser scan, I will have to spend 1500 euros.. .
to realize the sculpture with the 6-axis robot, how much should I spend!? ? !
or rather who could I turn to? ! ! '

Who could scan me? ?

 

[Fulvio Romano]

Therefore, we break the problem clearly:

- scan: there are simple and cheap techniques, there are complex and very expensive techniques (and more precise). you could try with a laser scan that is optical or direct taste. you could also try a reconstruction through targets (like avatar, to understand), but they serve specific software. I'd advise you to find some college that's taking care of it, maybe doing your free job if you're advertising it.

- 3d processing, I was worried about the speech of "excrescences":biggrin:...but if I am only on my neck and arms... give me the model and I do it, free, and you put my name in small somewhere:finger:

- construction: with 1500€ friezes in epowood a yacht of one meter and a half...maybe with a similar price you also make a person.

- transport: do not forget the transport, can have a dignified cost. . .

 

[Fulvio Romano]

ok realized that for a laser scan, I will have to spend 1500 euros.. .
to realize the sculpture with the 6-axis robot, how much should I spend!? ? !
or rather who could I turn to? ! ! '

Who could scan me? ?

for scanning, if it is enough what I recommended to you in the previous post, someone can recommend it...maybe even on this forum itself.

 

[niccol86]

Thank you, you would do me a great favor!! I really don't know where to start... my research.. . !

 

[maxopus]

I deal with scans (among other things) but, until I see it hard.
I'm mad about rosamarina, suppressed her and nduja, but I think you should give me a fifth of it:biggrin:

Perhaps, as he said, the best thing you can do is turn to a university. I don't know in calabria, but bari definitely have tools like this.

 

[Il marangon]

Hello niccol86

I handle milling more or less like the one you saw in the video and I assure you that with 1500€ I do not even open the file seen the job you describe.

to give you an idea of costs, the chair of which I attach image has a size of about 3 x 3 x 3 mt has a polystyrene base that I made about 3 years ago (the pleasure to paste the pietruzze I left it to someone else!) and we started from the royal chair. this has been digitized via 3d laser, scaled but not redesigned and scanned to contain costs. forms are quite simple, precision and details were not indispensable. at the end of the fair they spent about 20000 euri and a month full of work.

now realize a human body with spikes as you have described, I don't think you will go too far from 10000 using a poor material like polystyrene, just change material and look for something + consistent. . leave the calculations to you.

 

[enri]

but excuse a moment, I think the above scan systems are designed to be very precise. niccol must scan his body for a sculpture, I think precision is the last thing you need. with david laser scanner if you make it free, qui there is the example of a scan of a person. Now I do not know if the resolution of the freware version can be suitable in this case, but cabbage, can try with the trial and see, just a webcam. or turn to who uses it, the cost would be very low. Should excrescences be added by hand, or should they be of the same material?

there are also other tools that only work with photos, as photo model scanner, but it's commercial and I don't know the cost.

Sure that if the model must be perfect, and absolutely smooth, well this aspect must be clear, it is part of the language of the sculpture, but I don't think, it would not be realistic, the marble then I wouldn't consider it, pictosto as it says fulvio, the resin or similar things, are more flexible and economic, I think that the budget can be respected.

 

[Il marangon]

I assure you that with that budget maybe you do it 50 cm high, the design is the least problem, realization is the complicated thing, think of a human body to have to fresare, not easy! !beau the videos you posted but from my experience I think the marble machine worked at least one week and the other at least 24 hours. calculates at an optimistic time cost of 50 euros... I'll leave the calculation to you! !

 

[Preparation-H]

Hello niccol86

I handle milling more or less like the one you saw in the video and I assure you that with 1500€ I do not even open the file seen the job you describe.

to give you an idea of costs, the chair of which I attach image has a size of about 3 x 3 x 3 mt has a polystyrene base that I made about 3 years ago (the pleasure to paste the pietruzze I left it to someone else!) and we started from the royal chair. this has been digitized via 3d laser, scaled but not redesigned and scanned to contain costs. forms are quite simple, precision and details were not indispensable. at the end of the fair they spent about 20000 euri and a month full of work.

now realize a human body with spikes as you have described, I don't think you will go too far from 10000 using a poor material like polystyrene, just change material and look for something + consistent. . leave the calculations to you.

Sorry the stupid consideration:biggrin: but given the photo I seem to understand that people with that material come out at least 10 or more... so... 20k €/ 10 = 2k € per person... :biggrin:

Hi!
p-h

p.s.: beautiful however the chair, but give us more details, on the machines you used, software, tools... etc... :finger:
p.s.s.: I was joking above, I have no idea of the costs for the heralization of certain details. . .

 

[maxopus]

and not so much, a person is more articulated than a chair and above all... try to make her stand still when she is standing.
You just need a half a centimeter shift and you find holes and disconnections from all sides, and then to put them in place are pains, often you should do the job from scratch.

 

[marcof]

I would have thought of something like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmjofcydaa&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t605tffbpdm&translated=1

What a horror!
anthropomorphic robots, cad-cam software and so much time man and machine time to produce similar booklets...
the total uselessness of these technical performances that stop as soon as you see the appearance of some known form will never cease to amaze me.
I'm on top of the chart in my personal horror hit parade, along with the cad-shaped jewelry.

 

[niccol86]

you could

Of course I wouldn't have thought about using marble... what alternatives of materials you recommend me!? ? !

expanded polypropylene? ?

(excuse the caxxata I'm about to shoot):
According to you once you have scanned myself in the established pose and provided that the excrescences at this point have become superfluous (as I think I can apply them later)so it would be possible to realize from a scan a mold of me, to be able to fill in resin at my liking, bone or anything? ! ?

 

[niccol86]

according to you to make a mold from a scan it is possible..:!?! How could I do that? ? !