how to draw a frame like this

[jordy]

Hello guys a question I've always asked myself is this how to draw a frame like that in image, that is the best technique to do it, I would do so:

1) birth from the base
2) I begin to make the vertical parts of the frame

but here arise the boredoms with angle I if I had to do such a thing I would do like this:

1) I create a line where I have to place the floor
2) I create the floor with angle/normal to a floor

a) as a rotation axis I put the line made on the plane one
b) reference I put the xy plan or other floor different from the part I have to realize
c) rotation angle

do you think I'm judging as a procedure? or is there a better and easier solution?

This is a frame of reference there are others much more complicated but one starts with a simple one the rest lives alone.. .

 

[jordy]

This is the photo

 

[Filippo_]

Excuse me for curiosity, but what kind of frame do you find? I think I see handles in the back.

 

[stefanobruno]

Excuse me for curiosity, but what kind of frame do you find? I think I see handles in the back.

cross-cart ?

 

[jordy]

it is as it says stefanobruno, but the image is only an example, I would like to know only the best way to draw a tubular frame or rectangular section with the example geometries of the image, that is how would you design this frame? My way is very sleek and little accurate, will there be a simpler way to draw it?

 

[ferrezio]

Hello guys a question I've always asked myself is this how to draw a frame like that in image, that is the best technique to do it, I would do so:

1) birth from the base
2) I begin to make the vertical parts of the frame

but here arise the boredoms with angle I if I had to do such a thing I would do like this:

1) I create a line where I have to place the floor
2) I create the floor with angle/normal to a floor

a) as a rotation axis I put the line made on the plane one
b) reference I put the xy plan or other floor different from the part I have to realize
c) rotation angle

do you think I'm judging as a procedure? or is there a better and easier solution?

This is a frame of reference there are others much more complicated but one starts with a simple one the rest lives alone.. .

fixes a zero, for example a point on the median axis and coincides for example with the axis of the wheels.
creates a set of points, each point corresponds to a knot of the traliccio
creates a set point lines, and genre the normal median plan to the lines.
creates a sketch on the floor and traces the profile of the tubular.
this phase can be automated with macros or power-copys.

Hi.

 

[-Mc-]

I would like to know only the best way to draw a tubular frame or rectangular section with image sample geometries, i.e. how would you design this frame? the

depends a lot on what you have to do; I also progeto quesdto tipo di media (if you want I send you a photo by email);
to start, given the regulations of the various regulations that foresee rollbar in a single piece, you must start from the roll bar; after that, having well in mind the shape of the frame, maybe taking inspiration from photographs or sketches of the customer (you can copy from a kart cross you like), start from the platform;
it is very imoportant to have well in mind that the frame should be built, therefore, take into account:
- executable bend curves
- commercial curves and rays
- different diameters and thicknesses
- execution in workshop: or + dime = + cost

for more info contact me.
Hi.
p.s. the frame I see in the photo is part of a project sold on ebay that I had to see; does not concern proto kart cross homologable.

 

[jordy]

I don't have where you saw this image, but I found it with google, but it's just an example what I have in mind is quite different from that but I didn't know how to explain it and so I googled to look for an image of a cross kart and gave me a set of images and took what you saw better... Thanks for the answer.. .

 

[jordy]

guys after a while I managed to find and set aside a small sum to invest on this project, yesterday at school I tried to redesign everything I had already done time ago but I lost the files after formatting my external hdd, but I couldn't... I do so:
I manually insert the cordinates of the points that interest me, I create of the lines point to point and I generate the frame but then I create a plane parallel to one point, I do the sketch, and here arise the problems that I do not remember how I did, both with the command coast and with the loft command giving the lines that I created as directors do not do it, how did I miss something? Who can explain? The other time I managed it and now I can't do it anymore.... thank you for all those who will help me. . .

 

[jordy]

Can no one help me? :frown:

 

[jordy]

did the forum empty? How come? first it was enough to open a discussion that you immediately received the answer now it is 4 days that I put my discussion and nobody answers? I'm sorry because your work is fundamental to unpractical users like me....

 

[valtic]

Hi, I would do that.

I create only one part as welded structure and for each frame or tubular frame call it as you want, I create a body, finally I amount every single element in drawing...

 

[jordy]

hello valtic, and too much to ask you to explain your method? It's the first time I've been citing myself in something like that, I'd be enormously able to... .

 

[cesius79]

I'm sorry, guys, but does 3d sketches not make them?

 

[jordy]

and the following that I can't make lo0 shizzo 3d I can do it but transform the simple line with the tubular profile that I can't do... because the command costs sees a single director to run the coast....

 

[sampom]

I'm sorry, guys, but does 3d sketches not make them?

and the following that I can't make lo0 shizzo 3d I can do it but transform the simple line with the tubular profile that I can't do... because the command costs sees a single director to run the coast....

and the sweep is not there? and a building generator from sketch lines with automatic allocation of structural elements/profiles from library even? ?
..I find it strange, it should be very simple; at least with the software cousin and less blasoned is very common practice.

greetings
Mar

 

[sampom]

Hi, I would do that.

I create only one part as welded structure and for each frame or tubular frame call it as you want, I create a body, finally I amount every single element in drawing...

But it's a big mess! Are you sure you do that?

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[cesius79]

and the following that I can't make lo0 shizzo 3d I can do it but transform the simple line with the tubular profile that I can't do... because the command costs sees a single director to run the coast....

then...I designed with inventor a crane arm (network structure) and without the help of bookcases...made the 3d sketch I generated of the plans (point and straight) on which I drew the profile of the tubular and then extruded... and if it makes it inventor....:mixed:

 

[User1]

each designer uses his own methodologies to achieve certain results. considering that the frame will be welded in reality becoming a single set, consisting of elements that can be groups of tubes, like four tubes that would form a flank and that will have an angle between them (first together). placed on the floor that interests you in the part module, creates a sketch of the profile of the tubular with the angles that interest you and the appropriate size to your needs, placed on the orthogonal plane to the profile, creates a circumference that will be the section of the tubular, click on the coast command and select the profile that will be the trajectory of the circular section. first side made! same procedure for the other side for upper and lower. Try and let me know.

 

[riccardot5765]

to the unit to do things they used the coast command, using a profile made as wireframe. However I remember that it was really a ball having to always draw ste orthogonal sections for each stretch.

At this point I have a question: why does catia and nx not have the packages that have solidworks and solid edge respectively? Yet the seconds are notoriously lower-end programs than the first ones.