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Ah, my coat of arms flew it. not bad but the 50s of memory effency seem optimistic
I don't know how to read or write and considering how much these gliders will be "pasticciati" to make us stay all the batteries I have realized a 20:1 regardless of the efficiency of the orignal medium (which however will never be used since all the journey will be done with motor on motion from takeoff to landing
 
but if the electric is so unreliable because never the planes when they have to restart a flight engine rely on a battery and an electric motor:
It would be like saying that going around with an explosive motor is safe because they use the cartridges to start the engines of the planes.
an account is a starter battery that has to work a few seconds every tot hours, an account and use the same technology all the time.

In my experience, I didn't see cells drop by, I saw doa, I saw infant mortality, and I saw cells give a lot of signals that only if completely ignored lead to catastrophic failure.
You can see that you have little experience, if you want me to make you a list.
a thermal input that goes short is recognized by a minimally evolved bms like a sensor failure, not a difficult cell, especially the voltage of the cell does not show signs of anomaly, plus there is also to consider infrared photos transistors inside the package, also they are those that control the temperature of the cells, to detach a remote so correct solution to avoid dangers
Trust me, when you have a heat at 115 °C, trust me he's dead.
with two parallel packages, there would also be no need to reduce the power too much if one of the two was to cause problems.
excellent solution, but eye to the power of the remaining package and predict two bmi with the possibility to manage each package separately, energy exchanges between packages in parallel are to be taken with the springs.
I think it's better to have a second lithium pack than a gasoline scooter that maybe doesn't start or a supercap counter that's good for a couple of blocks.
Don't treat me the hybrid for what it's not, we're not talking about a simple "motor" to turn on in emergency.
With the supercondensers I've seen making 2 mw benches, I swear you didn't need to make a couple of blocks.
 
It would be like saying that going around with an explosive motor is safe because they use the cartridges to start the engines of the planes.
an account is a starter battery that has to work a few seconds every tot hours, an account and use the same technology all the time.
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You can see that you have little experience, if you want me to make you a list.
Yes, if you have any manual or particular case that you like to tell I think it can be useful for all those who follow the forum, sooner or later "I'm afraid" that with the batteries we will have to deal with all the more often.
Trust me, when you have a heat at 115 °C, trust me he's dead.
115 without smoke I would say that you are the heat that went, but in a sunny August with the ultra-fast charging vehicle parked in the sun and a cell that rises to 65° when the others are on the 55° as it seems to you?
excellent solution, but eye to the power of the remaining package and predict two bmi with the possibility to manage each package separately, energy exchanges between packages in parallel are to be taken with the springs.
I'll tell you more, rethinking and seeing that the engine will probably be made up of two coupled units (a little like when they put 2 9-cylinder stars to make the 18-cylinder) I was thinking of powering each engine with its controller and its battery pack, so that I have complete redundancy of the whole chain from the battery to the propeller.

I tried to avoid them as much as I could, putroppo in some situations I found myself playful in parallel to 2 packages, but they were united once and never detached again and all the alarms of the 2 bms were put in or
Don't treat me the hybrid for what it's not, we're not talking about a simple "motor" to turn on in emergency.
With the supercondensers I've seen making 2 mw benches, I swear you didn't need to make a couple of blocks.
In my opinion, as a weight/cost, supercondensers are not a solution applicable to this case, for that weight and that cost I prefer to carry behind other batteries
 
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Yes, if you have any manual or particular case that you like to tell I think it can be useful for all those who follow the forum, sooner or later "I'm afraid" that with the batteries we will have to deal with all the more often.
I have seen things that you humans cannot imagine!
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115 without smoke I would say that you are the heat that went, but in a sunny August with the ultra-fast charging vehicle parked in the sun and a cell that rises to 65° when the others are on the 55° as it seems to you?
The problem is that, automating a risk assessment.

I'll tell you more, rethinking and seeing that the engine will probably be made up of two coupled units (a little like when they put 2 9-cylinder stars to make the 18-cylinder) I was thinking of powering each engine with its controller and its battery pack, so that I have complete redundancy of the whole chain from the battery to the propeller.
This is the right way, actually it would be a hybrid between two batteries.
I tried to avoid them as much as I could, putroppo in some situations I found myself playful in parallel to 2 packages, but they were united once and never detached again and all the alarms of the 2 bms were put in or
I pretend I didn't read! :smile:
two bms and a dedicated sw, not impossible, indeed, but still to be taken with the springs.
In my opinion, as a weight/cost, supercondensers are not a solution applicable to this case, for that weight and that cost I prefer to carry behind other batteries
the best solution today is to implement a power bupper, the system kers.
 
I have seen things that you humans cannot imagine!
:biggrin:
recounts, of burning packages off the bastions,
bms rays flashing in the dark near the gate can
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The problem is that, automating a risk assessment.
It's not just automating the risk assessment, I think it makes a lot of parameter characterization and deviation detection.

This is the right way, actually it would be a hybrid between two batteries.
:d :d more than hybrid I would call it a monoely bimotor, hybrid I consider the systems that are not homogeneous

I pretend I didn't read! :smile:
two bms and a dedicated sw, not impossible, indeed, but still to be taken with the springs.
The two bms were there, and the software was actually hardwired with a logical or , every alarm coming from a single bms (hv,lv,t) was propagated to those who had to manage those alarms. I honestly had no problem (the car that went to dakar was made like this, a pre-existing 11kwh rear package and an additional package put up for the 8kwh trip, paralleled and never more disjoined)
the best solution today is to implement a power bupper, the system kers.
the best solution if you have space and weight available, if every single kg must be used with the maximum energy density possible such a system does not give you energy density, at most increases the density of power , but in this case it does not serve anything since we are talking about maximum discharges from 3c (max 4 minutes) , even during emergencies
 
recounts, of burning packages off the bastions,
bms rays flashing in the dark near the gate can
:biggrin::biggrin:
Then you're out!
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:d :d more than hybrid I would call it a monoely bimotor, hybrid I consider the systems that are not homogeneous
I think in any case that it is the right way to go.

the best solution if you have space and weight available, if every single kg must be used with the maximum energy density possible such a system does not give you energy density, at most increases the density of power , but in this case it does not serve anything since we are talking about maximum discharges from 3c (max 4 minutes) , even during emergencies
Igenic paper effect!
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Then you're out!
: smile:
Thank you but I prefer a banal nda :d , even if I have seen some calendar that maybe it was better to stay dry :d




Igenic paper effect!
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dry question...

Knowing that you need 19kwh to go from one airport to another, would you rather fly on a plane with 2 20kwh batteries each or on one with a 20 battery and a pack of supercondensors weighing like the battery?
 
the idea has left the safe port of the "informal" mails to land on the desk of who possibly should put the real money... if there will be news, I will update you
 
dry question...

Knowing that you need 19kwh to go from one airport to another, would you rather fly on a plane with 2 20kwh batteries each or on one with a 20 battery and a pack of supercondensors weighing like the battery?
a power buffer should not exceed 10% of total energy.
Make sure that I took one of the packages, plus 50% of energy you would also lose 50% of the battery power, which may not be sympathetic in certain conditions.
a power buffer could work as a power converter and make you "extract" energy to the right power.
 
In this specific case I do not see any problems losing half the parcel, the discharges of the remaining part are however perfectly able to hold the full power of the motor up to complete exhaustion of the batteries, just to make numbers, we start from a plane with 2 packs of 15kwh, the compssive power of the motor apparatus is of 120kw peak and 60 kw continuous, as you see also half the parcel

Honestly having a "half" battery that more 'supply up to 450kw peak and with a motor able to express to the maximum 120kw or in the case of the continuations with 150kw of battery against a maximum of 60kw of motor I do not see how the capacitors can make the minimum contribution
 
vice versa I have another case where 5kwh lead batteries receive 3kw pulsed discharges, and since they have just rejected the lithium pass solution I wanted to ask you (via pvt or in other thread) your experiences with capacitors
 
at the end the airbus introduced the e-fan

only difference is that instead of two engines on a single propeller shaft two engines and two propellers were used, while the battery only one without redundancies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-meq8sal5ngThe only thing that bothers me is that most of the preliminary and unpaid work I did was exploited by others without recognition.

But at least the electric plane becomes reality.
 
I return to the subject because although the realization of the thread is not at the end went to port it seems to me that now the electric is accepted and understood by all
 

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