i would like some advice from you experts.. .

[poliba]

Hello, guys, would you advise me what is the best cad between catia and pro-e... in the field of mechanical design and industrial and civil engineering? . Of course you have to take into account the cost of the license and the ease in everyday use... and I forgot. . .soprattuto in the rapidity with which you learn (obviously with max will).


p.s. between the two are tutorials or manuals that you possibly used and of which you are satisfied? . . .


I thank you in advance to all for your willingness to answer me.

 

[poliba]

How come you answer that? I would like to know the answer regarding the two specific fields of mechanical design and industrial engineering. . .

 

[poliba]

use anesys and a generic cad. also you have seen that there are other similar topics that, if I don't go wrong, you can read now how they wrote at his time. I presume you can find the home page of producers of proes and catia through a browser. I will be late, but you have enough elements to make your choice. But now I will be prodigal and I will give you motivation to prefer proes that you will not find anywhere.
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I prefer proe because it's cooler. professional engineer, do you feel euphoric? I really like constraints icons in sketch mode. The native .prt extension reminds me of the first time I did. total rectal penetration (.prt)"

I'm sorry... but do you think if I had enough elements to make my choice I would be asking for your opinion? Of course the opinion I ask you... is that dictated by your field experience since I have no...

Now I ask you a question: I wonder too much? Is it my fault I have no experience?

 

[stevie]

bah I don't use either of them, but I think that because at ease of use and speed of learning you are considering the two worst software.
then obviously depends on many factors the choice... what you have to do, what necessary modules, what customers/suppliers use, etc...
But then are we sure that there is really the "best cad"?
are also personal choices. there are those who use semi unknown cads and it is very well, others who have tried cad blasonati and were disappointed.
someone will tell you that the x software is amazing, that if you don't use that you're a mindcat etc. I think every software has pros and cons.

 

[Mauri:66]

bah I don't use either of them, but I think that because at ease of use and speed of learning you are considering the two worst software.
then obviously depends on many factors the choice... what you have to do, what necessary modules, what customers/suppliers use, etc...
But then are we sure that there is really the "best cad"?
are also personal choices. there are those who use semi unknown cads and it is very well, others who have tried cad blasonati and were disappointed.
someone will tell you that the x software is amazing, that if you don't use that you're a mindcat etc. I think every software has pros and cons.

I quote what is written by stevie, the best cad for if it does not exist, there is the cad suitable for what really needs to be done, but only with this choice opens an infinite world. . .
any cad is something you have to do with yourself, and the only rule that applies to all and to slew day and dream of slewing at night ... :wink:

 

[poliba]

I quote what is written by stevie, the best cad for if it does not exist, there is the cad suitable for what really needs to be done, but only with this choice opens an infinite world. . .
any cad is something you have to do with yourself, and the only rule that applies to all and to slew day and dream of slewing at night ... :wink:

Okay, I understand.:finger: but if one wanted to take a good resume in the fields mentioned by me, does there exist a cad between catia and pro-e that is most used in these two fields?

and inotre, generic question: there is a cad, even if ostico at first sight, of which once learned logic you are then more elastic when you want to learn the use of other cad?

 

[maxopus]

catia and pro/e are more difficult than solidedge, solidworks, inventor, mechanical desktop or others and there is a reason, they are cad of high level and are more ostic because there are more things to learn.
too many people think that learning to design and use cad is a 1/2-day thing to solve with 4 tutorials.

pro/e is considered the reference design tool for the power-train (motor-change systems of the automotive sector) and I use it also to realize the body surfaces without big problems.

catia is considered the reference design system for car bodies and automotive interiors.

There is a third high-level cad, siemens nx (ex ugs), catia competitor and pro/e.

the others are lower (midrange) because they are placed in different market bands, otherwise it would not explain why dassault sells catia and solidworks with completely different prices.... and siemens sells nx and solidedge with equally different prices.

ptc made a different choice because it started from above.
in 88 it came out on the market with a product that was then very high level and was the first context parametric cad in the world.
his clients were john deere, toyota, ferrari... and they are still.
when he saw that there was to be treated the sector of small and medium enterprises, he realized specific packages that do not provide a whole range of functions and that allow to buy licenses at reasonable costs.

I made this choice, bought pro/e with an intermediate packaging and if they were to serve me I will implement the specific modules.

If you take a midrange program (the ones I mentioned before) or you don't have the chance to upgrade or you have to change cad ... with everything that follows.

 

[poliba]

catia and pro/e are more difficult than solidedge, solidworks, inventor, mechanical desktop or others and there is a reason, they are cad of high level and are more ostic because there are more things to learn.
too many people think that learning to design and use cad is a 1/2-day thing to solve with 4 tutorials.

pro/e is considered the reference design tool for the power-train (motor-change systems of the automotive sector) and I use it also to realize the body surfaces without big problems.

catia is considered the reference design system for car bodies and automotive interiors.

There is a third high-level cad, siemens nx (ex ugs), catia competitor and pro/e.

the others are lower (midrange) because they are placed in different market bands, otherwise it would not explain why dassault sells catia and solidworks with completely different prices.... and siemens sells nx and solidedge with equally different prices.

ptc made a different choice because it started from above.
in 88 it came out on the market with a product that was then very high level and was the first context parametric cad in the world.
his clients were john deere, toyota, ferrari... and they are still.
when he saw that there was to be treated the sector of small and medium enterprises, he realized specific packages that do not provide a whole range of functions and that allow to buy licenses at reasonable costs.

I made this choice, bought pro/e with an intermediate packaging and if they were to serve me I will implement the specific modules.

If you take a midrange program (the ones I mentioned before) or you don't have the chance to upgrade or you have to change cad ... with everything that follows.

therefore, recapitulating, in the automotive sector catia and pro-e are the top...with pro-e that is even higher.
but in the case, nn so, of metal carpentry or of bolted or welded connections (e.g. gas bottles, and other) what is more congenial?
and what about the planning?

and then question to which I care a lot: exists a cad, even if ostico at first sight, of which once learned the logic is then more elastic when you want to learn the use of other cad?

 

[maxopus]

therefore, recapitulating, in the automotive sector catia and pro-e are the top...with pro-e that is even higher.
but in the case, nn so, of metal carpentry or of bolted or welded connections (e.g. gas bottles, and other) what is more congenial?
and what about the planning?

and then question to which I care a lot: exists a cad, even if ostico at first sight, of which once learned the logic is then more elastic when you want to learn the use of other cad?

I would not say that pro/e is higher than catia.
One and the other have advantages and disadvantages depending on the Treaty sector.

for metal carpentry pro/e is very powerful.
you can do it with the basic module (it is called foundation xe if I'm not mistaken) and if you work a lot in the field you can use the specific module for carpenters (it is called efx) that is really remarkable.
there is another specific module for piping.

if you learn to use pro/e you will have no problem learning how to use other cad.

 

[poliba]

I would not say that pro/e is higher than catia.
One and the other have advantages and disadvantages depending on the Treaty sector.

for metal carpentry pro/e is very powerful.
you can do it with the basic module (it is called foundation xe if I'm not mistaken) and if you work a lot in the field you can use the specific module for carpenters (it is called efx) that is really remarkable.
there is another specific module for piping.

if you learn to use pro/e you will have no problem learning how to use other cad.

Okay. at this point it is advisable to knock the head on pro-e, it will be ostic but it is advantageous on the long period.
The only pecca sn the cost of pro-e,... fine but there you have to consider the forms to be bought when the case is.

thanks for the availability.

 

[stevie]

If you care about proe it seems to me that time ago here was such that put on sale his license cause change cad . if you look in the old threads you will find the discussion. I don't know if it's possible to buy licenses between customers.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Okay. at this point it is advisable to knock the head on pro-e, it will be ostic but it is advantageous on the long period.
The only pecca sn the cost of pro-e,... fine but there you have to consider the forms to be bought when the case is.

thanks for the availability.

There is no longer this great difference of cost between pro/e and other systems, all is to choose which packaging take and not oversize the system if the requirements are minimal.

with a foundation xe already do everything, the advanced modules such as carpentry (emx), piping guided by specification with isogen and rsd, are thick add on, are programs in the program.

if you need technical info do not hesitate to ask.

greetings

 

[maxopus]

Okay. at this point it is advisable to knock the head on pro-e, it will be ostic but it is advantageous on the long period.
The only pecca sn the cost of pro-e,... fine but there you have to consider the forms to be bought when the case is.

thanks for the availability.

Since you are a student you can buy an educational license (or personal edition .... I don't remember).
you will not be able to use it to sell projects of course, and your files will not be compatible with the commercial version, but it costs really little and you have a lot of modules.

 

[alb]

quite embarrassing question, if I could all 2, ... but having to choose, I would do it according to the field of application.

Greetings to everyone.

 

[matteoso]

Well, if you study poliba I suggest you ask for advice to soria that will definitely recommend you proe!!! jokes aside, my dispassionate advice: I use it proe, I learned it myself (I'm still a pop!) but I assure you that you learn it in the same way as other sw...I like it a lot and has a hallucinating flexibility! do not listen to those who say "the sw I use makes me dynamic sections" or "has black edges" (I hope not to reopen old diatribe!).
Only the things said in this tread and in the previous ones are valid.
Greetings from an ex-poliba.