i'd like to be a designer, but...

[Primian]

Hello, I press that I have already presented myself in the special section sent to me by private message (I am newly written as you will have noticed). this year I obtained the diploma in mechanical expert at theitis of chieti and I tried immediately with the university; address mechanical engineering to ancona. I understand that he's not doing university life for me: I quit (or almost...) and now I'm facing a crossroads. I continue the unit, although I am not sure that it succeeds and that I would probably lose self-esteem and desire to live, or I try with courses and specializations to undertake the aforementioned career (I am not going to do just this, indeed..)? I'm more likely for the second though my parents want me to continue college. learned this, could I be a valid designer by taking courses and having only graduation? correct me if I'm wrong but, is it true that to take responsibility for a project you have to be engineers?
question from a million dollars: what course could I do? or what else?
I left the university for two days (mainly for a week) so, in theory, I could continue it though I don't do it for me..

thanks and excuse me the excess of questions but are really with the back to the wall

 

[Max-C]

Hello, I press that I have already presented myself in the special section sent to me by private message (I am newly written as you will have noticed). this year I obtained the diploma in mechanical expert at theitis of chieti and I tried immediately with the university; address mechanical engineering to ancona. I understand that he's not doing university life for me: I quit (or almost...) and now I'm facing a crossroads. I continue the unit, although I am not sure that it succeeds and that I would probably lose self-esteem and desire to live, or I try with courses and specializations to undertake the aforementioned career (I am not going to do just this, indeed..)? I'm more likely for the second though my parents want me to continue college. learned this, could I be a valid designer by taking courses and having only graduation? correct me if I'm wrong but, is it true that to take responsibility for a project you have to be engineers?
question from a million dollars: what course could I do? or what else?
I left the university for two days (mainly for a week) so, in theory, I could continue it though I don't do it for me..

thanks and excuse me the excess of questions but are really with the back to the wall

I have a degree and if you listen to me, if you want to be a designer, take it that nowadays, unfortunately with the diploma you do not go so far from the worker. especially if, as I understand, you want to make careers.
depends that it means "taking responsibility for a project". if you want to do the project manager in a company not (in theory) but if you want to have the right to sign you need the ability (magistral + state examination).

I wouldn't leave her in you, I thank my mother if she insisted so much, and I wouldn't hesitate twice.

 

[Primian]

I have a degree and if you listen to me, if you want to be a designer, take it that nowadays, unfortunately with the diploma you do not go so far from the worker. especially if, as I understand, you want to make careers.
depends that it means "taking responsibility for a project". if you want to do the project manager in a company not (in theory) but if you want to have the right to sign you need the ability (magistral + state examination).

I wouldn't leave her in you, I thank my mother if she insisted so much, and I wouldn't hesitate twice.

I don't think I'll take her back. I'm interested in managing a project I've done. Of course, I don't want to be a worker unless I begin. .

 

[Max-C]

I don't think I'll take her back. I'm interested in managing a project I've done. Of course, I don't want to be a worker unless I begin. .

But you understand that things change if "made by you" is the dog's wedge or an industrial plant. . .

 

[tartufon80]

I don't think I'll take her back. I'm interested in managing a project I've done. Of course, I don't want to be a worker unless I begin. .

Maybe you're missing out on the way the world of work works.
if your ideas are these, follow the advice of max-c, which I fully share.

Good luck!

 

[Primian]

Don't misunderstand me, I'm very clear that you have to study to become such, I was wrong to write in a hurry. what I would like to know is whether you can become designer or similar, enrolling me in a course. If so, what?

 

[tartufon80]

Don't misunderstand me, I'm very clear that you have to study to become such, I was wrong to write in a hurry. what I would like to know is whether you can become designer or similar, enrolling me in a course. If so, what?

In my opinion there is no course that makes you a designer or designer.
What course would you like to do?
In my opinion, the only thing that can teach you a course is to know how to use a program rather than another.
or let you know about certain regulations that are unknown to you.
but in any case it is the battlefield that forms you!
I know so many designers with cog....i, all graduates.
And that would mean that you could do it too, but the labour market is no longer the same.
already with a piece of paper is difficult, on average the titles of the courses nobody looks at them!

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

designer liner yes; if you know how to make projections, you know the basic regulations for technical design then it is only question of practice and debate; but almost certainly at the beginning you will design and quota simple stuff.
designer, I don't think you're in a class. what would be different from university?

 

[Primian]

In my opinion there is no course that makes you a designer or designer.
What course would you like to do?
In my opinion, the only thing that can teach you a course is to know how to use a program rather than another.
or let you know about certain regulations that are unknown to you.
but in any case it is the battlefield that forms you!
I know so many designers with cog....i, all graduates.
And that would mean that you could do it too, but the labour market is no longer the same.
already with a piece of paper is difficult, on average the titles of the courses nobody looks at them!

But I don't know, I'm running because it's the first thing that comes to mind, then it can be a specialization or something. What I press is knowing how to do to become such, I feel that I am wasting only time remaining inactive. For example, how did you do that?

designer liner yes; if you know how to make projections, you know the basic regulations for technical design then it is only question of practice and debate; but almost certainly at the beginning you will design and quota simple stuff.
designer, I don't think you're in a class. what would be different from university?

that I would already be projected into the world of work, maybe connected with some company in internships to experience.

 

[tartufon80]

But I don't know, I'm running because it's the first thing that comes to mind, then it can be a specialization or something. What I press is knowing how to do to become such, I feel that I am wasting only time remaining inactive. For example, how did you do that?
that I would already be projected into the world of work, maybe connected with some company in internships to experience.

I hope to be a decent designer and I'm trying to learn the designer's job. in reality there is a course to which I am enrolled and that I need as bread to do this: it is called graduation course!!! !
Just don't be inactive, study.

And then I'm sorry, did you realize that university doesn't do for you after how many days of class? A month?

 

[marcof]

what I would like to know is whether you can become designer or similar, enrolling me in a course. If so, what?

the degree program in mechanical engineering. . .

 

[vespa_83]

There are no fixed rules, but all statistics say that those who have a higher degree of study can at 50 years afford a more luxurious lifestyle. they also say that those who do extraordinary work in the office and have responsibilities are more likely to 60 years to cardiovascular problems and strokes...

I don't think the inventive person gives you the school, you have it, you create it, you acquire it if you have the chance to be sided with special people: It takes luck and a lot of beat.

Some friends were not happy with the university, but the interviews are proposed as an aspiring chief technical office, because it is graduated and did the state exam.

try to understand what you want from life, always, at every age, evaluate what it entails and what it serves.
in doubt, if your parents are happy and finance you, do the university: we are recommending you all.

in good luck, if you have ideas and projects, time is a good hinge, university a favorable environment of contacts and human experiences, sooner or later will come the opportune time to express itself to the best.

I regret enough that I did not do the university, and after 26-28 learning skills are not the same as the 17-22 years, although the world of work today is totally different from that of 10 years ago, in front of people the title of study still counts.

 

[abelli12]

you need to make a distinction between designer and designer.
to become designers it is necessary obviously to know all
the classical norms of technical design (from projections to sections, from quotation to drawing of assemblies, etc...); and this perhaps a targeted and well structured course could also provide you with all the necessary requirements.To become a "discreet designer" is not immediate (drawing and listing details and assemblies, it takes time and effort), becoming a "excellent designer" I think it requires even more commitment, but these are finesses.

well different is the case of the designer who, besides obviously having all the knowledge of the mechanical design,
must know and correctly apply the principles of: applied mechanics, machine construction (for the sizing of mechanical organs), mechanical technology, fluid mechanics (hydraulic and pneumatic), fem analysis, automation, etc. to design a machine or an iplant or just a part of them. Unfortunately today not even a course dedicated to the noun of these subjects is enough to be a good designer, in fact I think it is the long experience on the field to make the difference.
design is too wide, complex and articulated. then it also depends on what level you want to place: design can be made at different levels/grades.

I believe that today in Italy neither the schools, nor the universes, nor specific courses can form "good designers", but designers perhaps yes (or at least contribute to giving the basics). Moreover objectively we cannot ask schools what they cannot give (it is not thinkable that the school can provide all the skills necessary to design and draw any machine: as said before the field is too vast).

If the university feels distant and it is not believed that it can give a valid reference for future work, it becomes only a plea for themselves.

it is not to discourage anyone, but with the times that run (if it interests economic satisfaction), perhaps it would be better to devote to other.

I send in any case the best wishes.

 

[PierArg]

the degree program in mechanical engineering. . .

Straquoto!

but what allows you to have something more than others is: so much passion, desire to learn, curiosity and above all humility.

I know about the "designers" who are excellent designers and designers ( engineers) who are dogs.
Maybe they were the people who went to the university to do the exam with the maximum aspiration of the 18th stretched.

then there are designers who, for one reason or another, did not have the opportunity to go to university but have a professionalism that, in comparison, I am ashamed to be graduated.

and here there are many:finger:

 

[cacciatorino]

I continue the unit, although I am not sure that it succeeds and that I would probably lose self-esteem and desire to live, or I try with courses and specializations to undertake the aforementioned career (I am not going to do just this, indeed..)?

I think it's jamming through theitis to ing is normal. I also wanted to go home after two months, then I insisted and graduated in six years in bologna (old order).

Now see if you want to make an investment on you for the future, or start working immediately. To succeed in engineering, however, is more a question of tenacity than intellectual means excelled.

 

[PierArg]

You're hunting too!

at the end of engineering is not so prohibitive, let us speak clearly.
As far as I'm concerned, it was much harder to follow the courses and keep up than the exam itself.
math at some point is no longer used.
Of course, you will continue to see the simple derivatives and integrals but all those menades of the spaces of hilbert and beautiful company are no longer found.
also because the real purpose of the engineer is to straighten a curve, all those mathematical digressions in which we reason with hypotheses above we leave them to philosophers :tongue:

 

[Max-C]

You're hunting too!

at the end of engineering is not so prohibitive, let us speak clearly.
As far as I'm concerned, it was much harder to follow the courses and keep up than the exam itself.
math at some point is no longer used.
Of course, you will continue to see the simple derivatives and integrals but all those menades of the spaces of hilbert and beautiful company are no longer found.
also because the real purpose of the engineer is to straighten a curve, all those mathematical digressions in which we reason with hypotheses above we leave them to philosophers :tongue:

bè io sono (aspirante :smile designer and I have a degree in mechatronics, but I see that in the engineers of the car torino that makes my best friend mathematics is used very little. is based mainly on the use and deepening of cads (poli di to)

 

[Primian]

[...] To succeed in engineering, however, is more a question of tenacity than intellectual means excelled.

You're totally right!

you need to make a distinction between designer and designer.
to become designers it is necessary obviously to know all
the classical norms of technical design (from projections to sections, from quotation to drawing of assemblies, etc...); and this perhaps a targeted and well structured course could also provide you with all the necessary requirements.To become a "discreet designer" is not immediate (drawing and listing details and assemblies, it takes time and effort), becoming a "excellent designer" I think it requires even more commitment, but these are finesses.

well different is the case of the designer who, besides obviously having all the knowledge of the mechanical design,
must know and correctly apply the principles of: applied mechanics, machine construction (for the sizing of mechanical organs), mechanical technology, fluid mechanics (hydraulic and pneumatic), fem analysis, automation, etc. to design a machine or an iplant or just a part of them. Unfortunately today not even a course dedicated to the noun of these subjects is enough to be a good designer, in fact I think it is the long experience on the field to make the difference.
design is too wide, complex and articulated. then it also depends on what level you want to place: design can be made at different levels/grades.

I believe that today in Italy neither the schools, nor the universes, nor specific courses can form "good designers", but designers perhaps yes (or at least contribute to giving the basics). Moreover objectively we cannot ask schools what they cannot give (it is not thinkable that the school can provide all the skills necessary to design and draw any machine: as said before the field is too vast).

If the university feels distant and it is not believed that it can give a valid reference for future work, it becomes only a plea for themselves.

it is not to discourage anyone, but with the times that run (if it interests economic satisfaction), perhaps it would be better to devote to other.

I send in any case the best wishes.

thank you for the support, really, you have explained to me well that, to say to make the designer is general because then everyone specializes in his working environment; University and courses give you the most basics to do this. I do not have the physical or psychological strength to continue the university because it is a fault of a goal that spurs me to move forward and a favorable environment. I will be lost, hoping to find work here without having to flee abroad. .

Thanks to all the boys.