important choice

[mario.argese]

hi guys I'm not sure I put the discussion in the exact post, I ask you something:

last year I got a revit course and now I can say I'm getting pretty good, even if every day there are new things to learn.

But now I would like to expand my skills perhaps by learning a software capable of excellent rendering.
I press that the modeling I always do with revit, so the second program, I would only need to texturize everything, insert the various lights and everything else and then send the rendering.

Now the doubt arises: what program do I have to learn? are very undecided between 3dsmax and c4d.

many say that 3dsmax is better as quality, while others say that 4d cinema is a little less "scadent" but at least it is in Italian.

boys, all these opinions have really confused me and so I asked you that at least you are a little more experienced.

Thank you in advance for any answers.

Greetings:

 

[Tristan]

Now the doubt arises: what program do I have to learn? are very undecided between 3dsmax and c4d.

You have only one way to find out: download the trials and try them, evaluate with which of the two you find yourself better, with which you have more feeling. I recommend you to consider well above all how they behave with the import from revit (mhm...you say that I am pushing it a little on 3ds? :biggrin: naaaa!)

 

[mario.argese]

I have both trials on the installed pc, but the problem is that I can't do anything about two programs.. .
I know that the compatibility between revit and 3ds is great, but it scares me a bit the language... Do I have to take it as an obstacle or not? Give me advice from the boys. (also because then you will have to deal with a shopping, so...)
:smile:

 

[teo's]

Just what I'm going to do! I'm waiting for the new reissue of maxwell render. guide to use. vol. 2, since I would like to try to make with 3d modeling imported from revit. in my view is the engine making it better that there is, if nothing else in the architectural field, for how it manages the light. qui there is a video gallery (unfortunately the images are not available at the moment. . ).
greetings, teo's

 

[mario.argese]

excuse my ignorance, but maxwel render would be the rendering engine of 3ds?
give me more explanations so I understand better as I am an ignorant in this matter. :

 

[teo's]

maxwell render works both as engine of rendering of various programs like 3ds, archicad, rhinoceros etc.. with a standalone program, maxwell studio. for revit unfortunately there is no engine to render to integrate, but, not to use another program like 3ds, you just have to export the job done and import it to maxwell studio. from here set all the parameters and then launch the render that will come for the purpose executed by the maxwell render application!
greetings, teo's

 

[asalalp]

use 3ds max. is more compatible with revit, use the same materials, you can use any rendering engine (mr, maxwell, vray...), you can do animations, it is full of plugins, you have lots of tutorials and online resources

 

[mario.argese]

but maxwell studio is also in Italian?
Does there also exist any guide or manual always in Italian?
I saw a video and it is very interesting as a program

 

[teo's]

for the Italian version no, there is no, you have to arrange with English, but there is to say that it is a program that you learn with a good guide and therefore the speech of the language when you have a guide in Italian that explains you step by step, leaves the time you find. I'm waiting for the reissue of maxwell rendering. guide to use. V. 2 of the fag. to what I know should not miss the release as much.. that I know is the only guide in Italian on the software, well done, very nourished (over 700 pages), not economic (60€) but if you want to learn to use one of these 3d programs it is not that there are good guides so much cheaper. . I would add regarding the program, which is much lighter than 3dsmax so if you don't have a powerful pc and you have to arrange it can be a great motivation to choose maxwell render. last but not least the price: 895,00 € in front of the 2,565 € that you want to buy 3dsmax..

 

[mario.argese]

As for the PC, it doesn't have to be a big problem, as I've just assembled it, so I think it's powerful enough.
I also talked about 3ds max design.
could go x my needs?
I just have to texturize and then make it. . .
the model I do everything in revit...

 

[teo's]

look at me as I repeat, I have to do the same things: I create my project with revit, carry everything in dxf, open with maxwell studio, set all parameters, apply the textures, and launch the render. same procedure is to be applied with 3dsmax.. the difference lies only in the engine to render and in case you use maxwell render directly in 3dsmax you just cancel or almost.. for me you have to evaluate between the two things price (maxwell render is certainly better from this point of view, most of all if you want to use maxwell render in 3dsmax), versatility (3dsmax is definitely advantaged compared to maxwell studio, as it supports more plug-ins and more engines to render) and usability (downloads both versions of test and see first person with which you can find yourself better). as to the design version, the differences are above all from the point of view of the interface, more voted to the architectonic than the basic version. Here you are the link where you can see the differences (reported to the 2009 version but it doesn't make much difference. . ) http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=3021

 

[mario.argese]

very interesting and perhaps I came to a conclusion.
I will try to use 3ds max design, also because as a rendering engine I would like to use vray, (they say it is the best).
What do you think?
Thanks again for all the comments you are offering me.
I'm very helpful. .

 

[teo's]

definitely it is a great engine to render, indeed it is universally known that if it beats it with maxwell render for the better engine scettro. In my opinion, however, maxwell render in architectural context is better see to believe :mixed:

 

[mario.argese]

Hell, you can really do some good work. then even the price is quite low compared to the others... Now you really put me in crisis...

 

[teo's]

to be consistent place also a great job made with v-ray. as you can well see also v-ray has a very high potential. . If you want my modest opinion, I chose maxwell render because it handles the lights better, having a rendering engine based on the physics of real light. then however they are very subjective impressions that can also be opinable. .

 

[mario.argese]

Thank you very much, I will continue to evaluate by... seem to be two excellent programs. . .
Thanks again.
if however there are other opinions from other users, they are welcome.

 

[asalalp]

with mental ray you can get any realism level as with maxwell and vray...
http://www.mentalimages.com/index.phpps: if you place the materials in revit then in 3ds you have already recognized them because the library is the same

 

[teo's]

Yes but it does not make any sense to make 3dsmax to use mental ray if you already have revit.. at this point use mental ray directly from revit since it is already integrated into the bim autodesk and save a lot of time and money!

 

[mario.argese]

on this I give you the reason, but they say that mental rey in 3ds is more complete and has a final quality of the image more realistic.
I also read that 3ds 2012 mounts iray as a rendering engine.
What do you think? I never heard of this engine. .

 

[lance]

mr is integrated into revit via a "simplified" plug-in. you can get some nice renderings but it would be like to compare a series car to its counterpart from great tourism. said this I recommend you stay on 3ds design and mr. exporting from revit as .fbx not only materials, but also cameras and lighting system (day light and photometric lights) are maintained and are possibly editable in 3ds and this means big saving time. iray is certainly the future but at the moment it requires a specific hardware (cude graphics cards etc.) which results in a further considerable investment.

ps: at the moment I would not descend into disrespects of the type is better a rendering engine or that other...to the current state of evolution all allow a photorealistic rendering and the differences are so infinitesimal that before noting them you must have a super in-depth knowledge (that by understanding the average user does not have!).

of course they are my personal considerations...