information and delucitation

[jordy]

Hello guys yesterday was a typical winter day from my side is I spent all day in front of the pc and your discussions on the catia v5 forum, and I first entered the formu dedicated to catia v6, version of which or only heard speak but I never saw it and tried it and so much less I will do it from what you say will cost a tombola more than catia v5 and with the crisis that is around we will see it only on the posters. I read a lot and that understood very little, I read forums both in Italian and English, and to what I understood this new sofware has several news, air graphics, but the thing that I like is that it facilitates and a lot the work in team, for example to what I understand you can work at the same piece in two, implement it with new details, in short, what work is reduced a lot, then the graphic area is wonderful, and you see from some video spa then I read that if one installs only the software can not save the job done or as someone says in this forum propagate to me it seems, the thing that I already ask myself the program in itself costs a bang we also put additional software like enovia and the database that I do not know which is and if they are okay all or there is one dedicated to him to how much we arrive with the money? At this point I think that the game is not worth the candle, i.e. I think that this software can only be used in very large companies such as boing, loked martin, we also put the ferrari, but medium or small companies will never take it... Now I ask you my questions I hope someone can answer:

1) What is the cost of software catia v6?
2) Does it work alone?
3) is it true that without a database the software itself does not save does not open the files on which we work?
4) did anyone try it? How is it?

These are my curiosity, I hope someone will be burdened with reading and answering who knows a good discussion can arise and new thoughts can arise on this software. . .

 

[The_Matrix]

I'm afraid if you don't get someone ds to answer your beautiful post will remain letter muta

 

[jordy]

apart from the matrix nobody responds? Doesn't anyone care about this discussion? Maybe a little banal, you know?

 

[The_Matrix]

apart from the matrix nobody responds? Doesn't anyone care about this discussion? Maybe a little banal, you know?

I'll answer you, hoping no one will tell me not to do my ca@i.
1) What is the cost of software catia v6?tall. both as purchase and as maintenance.
if the policy compared to v5 has not changed, maintenance is mandatory.
even the tcoo, given its architecture is not recently.
in addition to the cad you must have enovia and its db (probably it will be embedded).2) Does it work alone? to what is known no.
not to laugh for small companies that have v5 and for producers of pdm that can not do without (both) of enovia.
I believe that v6 was not designed for companies of less than the term "medie".
it is said, but here we are right at the "you say", that ds will offer itself as "provider" of your db.
in practice you will no longer save on your dear disk, but you will "publish" your part or assembly or drawing on a resident cluster somewhere in the world.3) is it true that without a database the software itself does not save does not open the files on which we work?v6 lavora solo su db.4) did anyone try it? How is it?to what I find in Italy complete v6 installations (catea + enovia at least) are not there.
who is using it and asks for info here surely have found it through cross paths.

ps. boeing stands at ferrari as an elephant stands at a microbe.
ps2. lockeed is part of boeing

 

[jordy]

Exorbitant costs are not worth wasting time... but what most scandalizes me is the fact that the works done you have to save them on testider that I am not physically in your company, I think a real buffalo, that is to say, you have to make sure that the boing develops or projects a new plane or part of exo with catia, a good slender would find the way to get to that db and download what he wants right? Where is security? So I think industrial secret comes down, doesn't it? What do you think?

thanks matrix you gave me another involuntary tip I didn't know that the lockeed went under boing... an extra thing I learned thanks to you... I'm just curious and nothing more... a new world with so many secrets that it is better not to discover... in all ways thanks matrix...

 

[cacciatorino]

Exorbitant costs are not worth wasting time... but what most scandalizes me is the fact that the works done you have to save them on testider that I am not physically in your company, I think a real buffalo, that is to say, you have to make sure that the boing develops or projects a new plane or part of exo with catia, a good slender would find the way to get to that db and download what he wants right? Where is security? So I think industrial secret comes down, doesn't it? What do you think?

thanks matrix you gave me another involuntary tip I didn't know that the lockeed went under boing... an extra thing I learned thanks to you... I'm just curious and nothing more... a new world with so many secrets that it is better not to discover... in all ways thanks matrix...

save on an external db has pros and cons, give us a read here:
http://www.deelip.com/?p=2444http://www.deelip.com/?p=2222and other articles on the same blog, always very interesting and in-depth.

However if you ever really get to work in "cloud computing", big companies would set up their own cloud, they would definitely not rely on an external provider (thinking military for example).

 

[jordy]

I support your hunter's thinker, you know it's done so much for safety just after September 11th that I think a big step back with this thing, it would be a weak point to hit, but for now it's just my thought, or even a fntascientific fable, but life teaches us that nothing is impossible to look prioprious September 11th, who expected it? a boing against a tower a skyscraper.... only the future will tell us... thanks to you for the answer.. .

 

[The_Matrix]

Well, don't overdo it. . .
September 11... security. .
in the companies a minimum structure does not save the data cad on your disk.
you work within a pdm.
and pdms have delocalized volumes everywhere, federated.
the "cc" is an extremization of the concept, pulverizing not only the dislocation, but also the data itself.

 

[The_Matrix]

the v6r2011 came out.
seems like something ever more coming from the future.. .
Why the hell doesn't anyone have it?

 

[tenerone]

In fact, it is what I ask myself...ferrari, for example, continues to use v5...I work there every day and until now I have not yet found a customer with v6

 

[stef_design]

In fact, it is what I ask myself...ferrari, for example, continues to use v5...I work there every day and until now I have not yet found a customer with v6

that release uses, I think 17?

 

[The_Matrix]

In fact, it is what I ask myself...ferrari, for example, continues to use v5...I work there every day and until now I have not yet found a customer with v6

I asked the question and I have the answer!
ah ah ah
but I don't want to make any arguments.
I think the v5 to v6 system change is very heavy.
if you have a pdm not ds, type teamcenter or windchill you have to change completely implementation strategy: An atomic mess.
we do not think that "cloud computing" is a joke from nothing... No files... publication. . .
"small" can't afford it for now.
the "big" have almost all tc and are scratching the pear: I put v6 with all the problems of integration with tc or change cad??? ?

 

[The_Matrix]

small sunto from the recent article of fortunes:open vs. closed
the open vs. closed debate is reminiscent of a trend that’s popular in silicon valley these days: rather than just sell individual products, lots of folks seem to want to sell their technology in a package.
apple (aapl) has a closed approach with its iphone and
ipad, which are tightly bundled with apple’s proprietary operating systems and app store.
oracle (orcl) bought sun in part so that it could create servers that are specially tuned to run its databases.
and cisco (csco) is selling specialized servers and other equipment that has its networking software baked in.
when the closed strategy works, it can yield outsize profits — apple’s recent financial results being a prime
example. but it can backfire, too. if a company’s bundle of products doesn’t work together well enough to justify
the added cost, customers can get turned off.that’s the danger for dassault.
joe barkai, analyst at idc manufacturing insights, says that in this age of consolidation, automakers are more
likely to be looking for flexible design systems that can easily share data with a new partner or supplier.

 

[aikos]

Guys, I don't know if it's the right forum, but I'm looking for someone who can use pdms for work opportunities