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Bye to all,

I would have a doubt about something that happens to me when I make the drawing, until a long time ago I did not give you importance, but now I would like to understand how it works: in the drawing that I attach there is the frame of the drawing that as you see is very big, and sometimes happens that it is (as in another design I have done) that has oversized !!!, as I repeat until a short time ago I did not pay attention, but now I want to understand .... Would I like to know if there is a way to change the frame size?? .
Thanks for the answer.

Joel
 

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Thank you, but what did you have to do?? ... and then that reference on the left serves something?? ?

Thanks again

Joel
 
Thank you, but what did you have to do?? ... and then that reference on the left serves something?? ?

Thanks again

Joel
Of course it serves, it indicates the reference to the model.
every time you do as I told you and solve the problem:finger:
 
I understand, I'm still sorry if I disturb you, but this arises from the fact that the origin and therefore the axes are not found on the model ??, if yes, there is the possibility to move the piece and center it in the origin ??? ?
thanks again and excuse the destruction

Joel
 
I suppose you're making the table from an existing solid, right?? In this case catia places everything using the main axle system used in building your solid 3d so the reference you find in drawing other is that a system of axes whose origin is located at the same point where the origin of the axle system used in solid 3d.....
 
exact, the fact is that the file is an igs, so it is not an assembled, in practice I should extract the individual pieces from this igs (and a way I found it, it is not the best and the most fun, but it brings me results) and then I am bringing it to solidworks. therefore the reference of the total is obviously, once extracted the piece, placed in a position not suitable. I don't have a problem with tableing, but I wanted to understand how to eliminate this problem at the root if there is a chance to move the piece and put it for example in the origin of the axes. I hope you explain.

Joel
 
yes solutions are two.....
or move the piece into the origin of the axes of the absolute system or create a new system of axes centered in your piece and than which you will perform the table.. .
I tell you right away (I haven't tried but I think it's definitely so) that even the first solution (i.e. moving your piece into the main axle system) prevents the creation of a axle system, in fact the command to use is "stayed by axis" while the second solution (create a new axle system) is more convenient as you'll be easier to perform the quotation.... .
If you have difficulty, I can explain to you how to put a particular on the table compared to an axle system that is not the main one.
 
yes solutions are two.....
or move the piece into the origin of the axes of the absolute system or create a new system of axes centered in your piece and than which you will perform the table.. .
I tell you right away (I haven't tried but I think it's definitely so) that even the first solution (i.e. moving your piece into the main axle system) prevents the creation of a axle system, in fact the command to use is "stayed by axis" while the second solution (create a new axle system) is more convenient as you'll be easier to perform the quotation.... .
If you have difficulty, I can explain to you how to put a particular on the table compared to an axle system that is not the main one.
Be careful when you do these things. If the iigs you have are part of a more conscientious study and you only have a particular one, when you give the customer your particular, risk, indeed surely, is not in the real position, then risks of complications in the disposition of the general aid.
I don't know if I explained
 
overall is a complete vehicle (hybrid vehicle with wheel motors). the fact is that the format is an igs and I do not have available (and there is no way to have it) the different pieces in catpart format (so I don't even know what simulations they did). and having to use solidworks because unlike catia manages to communicate with labview (which will allow in the future to do simulations with control), then I have to export everything and bring it to solidworks. the fact that doing it all together brings problems, then those who made the drawings used surfaces and not solids (at least so it appears in the igs file) so to make the simulations with solidworks is not likely!!! ... then what I do (and as I repeat it is not the best definitely or the most fun, but I started in this way and gives me results) I put in evidence a single piece, putting invisible the others and save it as cartpart (I do not carry it in solidworks because the surfaces are complex and gives me errors of surfaces and then as I repeat I need solids, because I obviously need the mass etc.), I carry it in drawing with the quotation and then I need it. and a job so at least I can get a playback (as much as possible because it is not easy to see measurements) in solidworks.
a long message but this is the bitch I find in my hand!!! ... I just hope I've explained well ...

Joel
 
overall is a complete vehicle (hybrid vehicle with wheel motors). the fact is that the format is an igs and I do not have available (and there is no way to have it) the different pieces in catpart format (so I don't even know what simulations they did). and having to use solidworks because unlike catia manages to communicate with labview (which will allow in the future to do simulations with control), then I have to export everything and bring it to solidworks. the fact that doing it all together brings problems, then those who made the drawings used surfaces and not solids (at least so it appears in the igs file) so to make the simulations with solidworks is not likely!!! ... then what I do (and as I repeat it is not the best definitely or the most fun, but I started in this way and gives me results) I put in evidence a single piece, putting invisible the others and save it as cartpart (I do not carry it in solidworks because the surfaces are complex and gives me errors of surfaces and then as I repeat I need solids, because I obviously need the mass etc.), I carry it in drawing with the quotation and then I need it. and a job so at least I can get a playback (as much as possible because it is not easy to see measurements) in solidworks.
a long message but this is the bitch I find in my hand!!! ... I just hope I've explained well ...

Joel
As you are twisted:biggrin:
Maybe I didn't explain, you can do all the changes of axes you want, but, by experience, if you pass an igs of a piece that is part of a more general set, in this case a motor, the detail that they gave you is in the real position, so if you move it and you take it back to the customer, will rediscover the problems of positioning.
If, however, the particular that they have given you has only the purpose of making the table, then released from the general axieme, you can do it, but in this case, return to the hint I had given you previously (hide the sys of ref.)
 
ahahahahaha!!! .. you are perfectly right!!! ... I understand, in fact now I do and I am correcting the other drawings. I'm also trying to figure out how to move and how to create a ref, maybe I could use it.
Thanks again

Joel
 
Bye to all,

I would have a doubt about something that happens to me when I make the drawing, until a long time ago I did not give you importance, but now I would like to understand how it works: in the drawing that I attach there is the frame of the drawing that as you see is very big, and sometimes happens that it is (as in another design I have done) that has oversized !!!, as I repeat until a short time ago I did not pay attention, but now I want to understand .... Would I like to know if there is a way to change the frame size?? .
Thanks for the answer.

Joel
Hi.

you can enlarge image sorry_!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I understand your problem and I can help you
 
Hi.

you can enlarge image sorry_!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I understand your problem and I can help you
More than that I can't enlarge it, this is another design, I thought I solved the problem as I said phoenix consultations, but here the problem arises!!!! ....
 

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More than that I can't enlarge it, this is another design, I thought I solved the problem as I said phoenix consultations, but here the problem arises!!!! ....
maybe rs4 meant if you can increase the image resolution.
when we open it, common mortals, we see it as great as a stamp:biggrin:
 
More than that I can't enlarge it, this is another design, I thought I solved the problem as I said phoenix consultations, but here the problem arises!!!! ....
I hope I have understood even if from the image you do not see a bat
photos1 step1 insert view
photos select absolute axis
photo3 hide absolute axis

Hi.
 

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I hope I have understood even if from the image you do not see a bat
photos1 step1 insert view
photos select absolute axis
photo3 hide absolute axis

Hi.
I think there's a system to hide it by default. in options or settings?
 
More than that I can't enlarge it, this is another design, I thought I solved the problem as I said phoenix consultations, but here the problem arises!!!! ....
that I knew it was the only way to solve the problem, if there is a default sys, it took me :confused:
 
that I knew it was the only way to solve the problem, if there is a default sys, it took me :confused:
Hello

as already written previously just put on no show the axis assouto in blue............ .

from the image attached by joel I think is what he meant, cmq we wait him to see if he solved:finger:


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