inventor says "ilogic": swx will answer?. [parameterization/configurator]

[reggio]

Hi, browsing cheerfully, I bang the face against this video[youtube]dqowzw38flu&feature=related[/youtube]... that obviously intrigues me, then I search and find a lot of other ideas and Articles that bring exciting comments like ".. but look at this filmed, of the new version 2012: calling it configurator seems almost reductive... "

...and then I think of my youthful dreams of finding a 3d that could affix to the length of the part <albero> the parameter "lunghezza_alb" instead of the value and that this parameter was then "compiled" by the axieme in which I went to insert it (the tree part asks the axieme x "how much is worth here in tea the parameter "lunghezza_alb"? "). . .

And I say, "Do you want to see that the autodesk boys are on the good road and I'm on the pole instead? "

What do you think?</albero>

 

[re_solidworks]

solidworks integrates driveworks express that I never even tried as I do the designer and do not work on products in series.
driveworks express is however a reduction of driveworks that, if not erro is a third-party product.
We say they have nothing at home, but if you need a configurator you will find products from solutions partners.
if you try to ask readysolutions they also have it, obviously integrated into the pdm and I dare say that it does something more than you see in video.
How do you work? basically asks you to enter the parameters you previously configured, green within families and technical fields if there are matches and if you find it the work of components replacements.
If there are any details that do not exist in databases, these are created in parametric, encoded, compiled the graphics, compiled the technical fields and exeuite the tables.
You ask to show it, I don't speak for you to say, I saw it with my eyes and it's really functional.
can perform ad hoc customizations, such as creating documents for preventive use or other during object configuration.

 

[re_solidworks]

Hi, browsing cheerfully, I bang the face against this video[youtube]dqowzw38flu&feature=related[/youtube]... that obviously intrigues me, then I search and find a lot of other ideas and Articles that bring exciting comments like ".. but look at this filmed, of the new version 2012: calling it configurator seems almost reductive... "

...and then I think of my youthful dreams of finding a 3d that could affix to the length of the part <albero> the parameter "lunghezza_alb" instead of the value and that this parameter was then "compiled" by the axieme in which I went to insert it (the tree part asks the axieme x "how much is worth here in tea the parameter "lunghezza_alb"? "). . .

And I say, "Do you want to see that the autodesk boys are on the good road and I'm on the pole instead? "

What do you think?</albero>

I forgot: regarding inventor, go to the forum when they talk about adaptive technology and then tell me.... .

 

[stefanobruno]

I forgot: As for inventor, go to the forum when they talk about technology and then tell me... .

.........:36_1_4:.........

 

[SolidUser]

the product seems valid, but driveworksxpress is in the basic version, while ilogic is in the premium.
This isn't just.
there are 2000 euros of difference and the maintenance fee.
depends on what your focus is.
the features are the same, definitely a more eye-catching and intuitive interface helps the user to develop the configurator, but remember that in driveworksxpress there is exactly the example of the conveyor, which I remember is in the basic version of sw.

the grass of the neighbor seems more and more green, but if you are not even able to accept your garden....

 

[reggio]

.........:36_1_4:.........

:d I guess you didn't like the adactivity :d
instead of this ilogic, can you tell us something?

@re_solidworks: from what I've seen is not bad and seems functional (you don't need an engineering degree + targeted five-year course...).

about driveworks express I read a few posts here in the forum and those few did not seem to me to fear the praises, though, I never looked at it well: do you know of the tutorials done well to follow?

the video that I have attached shows the possibility to create drop-down blinds to perform different choices, and the range of the selection also changes the component (not only as size but also as part) applied and its quantity, or changes the mounting position (from dx to sx)... it would be nice if driveworks could do as well. . .

readysolutions: we are still gearing (there is still no clear what must be the ns method of working with swx and therefore we fatichiamo to lay guidelines on rs, in any case later I will ask, in any case it will be paid (ilogic is instead integrated). .

 

[stefanobruno]

:d I guess you didn't like the adactivity :d
instead of this ilogic, can you tell us something? . . .

I'm sorry but I don't use it, I don't do things I can recover from changing parameters, it's always all a prototype :biggrin:.

However, I always distrust automatism, I have already reiterated it several times.
the experience (if any) of those in front of the monitor can never be replaced.
I have often seen starting from an existing project saying "we widen it by 200 and for the rest it's fine ", six months later another one comes up saying "we start from this and we widen it by 100 ... and increase the diameter"
After two years the machine is double wide, it goes faster and, who knows why, it broke.
a few years ago I worked outside for a company where they were planning an aspo from a , which in turn was obtained from b and so on.
I stuck my nose in what they were doing, and I told him, but isn't it a little too long to hold him up, without third support?
but it's the same as a, just a little longer!
they calculate it again and add support, meanwhile comes the phone call saying: putt.. it broke the aspe of a, that c..... ours, yours...
Now I pay attention to express opinions, otherwise everyone touches:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[re_solidworks]

@re_solidworks: from what I've seen is not bad and seems functional (you don't need an engineering degree + targeted five-year course...).

Of course, but I remind you that Mr. Autodesk showed you and not a random guy. If you had to configure your product, do you think you can do it with the same simplicity? As soon as I get the 2012 inventor I try and tell you....

about driveworks express I read a few posts here in the forum and those few did not seem to me to fear the praises, though, I never looked at it well: do you know of the tutorials done well to follow?

and who knows how to do it? I don't believe retailers because being free nobody invests their time to learn it properly. if it cost 2000 euros who buy it would invest the time due. I don’t know tutorials, as I told you I don’t use configurators as I do service and non-production.

the video that I have attached shows the possibility to create drop-down blinds to perform different choices, and the range of the selection also changes the component (not only as size but also as part) applied and its quantity, or changes the mounting position (from dx to sx)... it would be nice if driveworks could do as well. . .

I believe that apart from the input mode (even the r2w configurator uses custom curtains) all the configurators worthy of this name are able to do as much as you see in the video.

readysolutions: we are still gearing (there is still no clear what must be the ns method of working with swx and therefore we fatichiamo to lay guidelines on rs, in any case later I will ask, in any case it will be paid (ilogic is instead integrated). .

The method they suggest to you is definitely valid for you, I tell you because they have already managed many realities with production like yours and know what you will need and what not, experience in these things means a lot.
regarding ilogic, if it costs 2k€ just free is not!

 

[GiGa]

the product seems valid, but driveworksxpress is in the basic version, while ilogic is in the premium.
This isn't just.
there are 2000 euros of difference and the maintenance fee.

I interfere as an inventor user, not knowing absolutely how both driveworks.. .
I didn't know if ilogic is also in the premium solidworks... because there is no premium version in autodesk (except the newest suites that still have to go out). ilogic is located in the still current inventor suite, which is the basic version and therefore is "gratis" (I did not understand the history of 2000€).
In any case, I have been using ilogic for a couple of years to quickly parameterize some models... and I must say that it is a help not recently, in the face of an initial commitment (code setting) even too heavy once logic happens (and many copy/paste).
Of course, at first you have to understand how it works, but it is quite powerful.
for now I have used it at a part level (I insert my parameters and the model is updated)... I have not yet needed to use more particular functions such as functions on assemblies, documents, distinct files, etc.
I imagine that having "programmed" a little in vba might have helped me a little, but between tutorials, self-compositions and examples, you still learn quickly enough.

an example:
often for a customer I have to make air pipes different plants (typically from 300 to 2500 mm in diameter).
"obviously" the pipes are not commercial but are made according to a series of specifications, and few times are reusable.
for a curve, for example, there can be 6/7 internal norms (with, in turn, different conditions within them) that define materials, type of flanging, drilling, geometries, etc. according to diameter and plant.
and inventor iparts are not the best solution (for a series of reasons).
Since I have parameterized with ilogic my "typical curve", I just have to insert some discriminating values (diameter, plant, material, angle, etc.) and I have the ready model to insert in the axieme.
first I had to start from a curve already made is to change the model, hoping not to forget anything.
Of course, before putting an ilogic model into production, there was a period of control when I checked that the output corresponded with what was desired. and at this stage there have been several improvements.
it was certainly not a health walk (I admit I spit several balls, especially because of the overlay of regulations), but the result is absolutely satisfactory and, what matters most, now "rediction".
I now trust a lot more, although obviously a fast control is done anyway, but it can be limited to fundamental parameters.

Now it has become quite "automatic" to think that I have ilogic and also use it for small things, especially in the phase of study when you vary some parameters to better evaluate in what direction to go or when I know that I have to realize a set of similar models. . .

in practice: the time spent in the initial programming, is widely recovered after...