inventor versions

[dide]

hi guys, I'm new to the forum and also modeling for mechanical design. in fact I am a cad designer with a lot of experience but in the civil/edile sector and mainly I work on structural design for building (practically always in 2d).

I want to get closer to work needs, the inventor world and parametric software.

the first thing I ask is this: I installed on the pc a full version of autocad 2012 in which there is the inventor fusion package. What is the difference between its package the inventor pro for example? which other versions exist?

Thank you!

 

[stefanobruno]

Welcome.
fusion is the autodesk program that allows you to explicitly edit files from different systems, so it would allow you to manipulate any file.
if it is not mistaken is parametric and has a working tree performed on the imported piece that, instead, is always devoid of the processing that generated it.
did not have a big success but it was right to have this opportunity, the race to copy it requires.
inventor pro was the richest version before a further differentiation, allows to make piping and fea/fem analysis on the assemblies.
the modeling of parts and assembly of the same is identical for all versions except lt and fusion.

Hi.

 

[dide]

So if I understand correctly, it's not inventor but it's kind of a similar platform with many limitations that allows you to do some operation but it doesn't have much to do with the actual program. is it correct? but what other versions are there? and if I wanted to learn how to use it which I should recover?

 

[stefanobruno]

Yeah, it's all right.
Here are the current versions: http://www.autodesk.it/products/autodesk-inventor-family/overviewto learn the basic version is fine.
of the "recovery ", if that's what I mean, don't talk about it, the rules of the forum, and not only, do not contemplate these escamotages.
there are trial versions, 30 days and stop.
As it is a question that often comes out, I already give you an indication: the pieces made with educational versions are marked as such and the pieces made with the newest version are never read by the older versions (as happens with any cad 3d )
in 30 days, with constancy and guides online or on the web, learn rudiments, alone bang the head.
I'm supposed to autocad, behind you, it's two different ways to do things.

Bye.

 

[dide]

Bye. Sorry about the latitude, but I've had a lot to do these days. When I returned to us, obviously I did not mean things contrary to the forum regulation or anything, we say that I was wrong. In the end I find myself facing a pro2015 version. I have already begun to take a look at it and I have seen with my pleasant surprise that there are very nice video tutorials. Do you still have any advice to give me to hang me even more? other video tutorials rather than real exercises to consult? I'd be very helpful.
of course tips straight and what else are very appreciated, if you want and if you have time and want

other profane question: I heard a lot about soldworks and I assume there are other 3d modelers. How does it place an inventor in this world? does it as a mistress as autocad (at least for drawing 2d)? which are the best or better the most popular 3d modeling sw?

 

[gil]

and difficult to draw up a ranking, much depends on the field of work and also on the geographical area.
However, for the sake of general indication, here is a situation of utmost importance in the sector.
probably the most used software is dassault solidworks, with excellent quality.
behind for number of users to play the second place there are solidedge of the siemens, inventor of the autodesk and perhaps a little more back (but not know isecure) create of ptc.

qualitative inventor is growing faster than everyone, but it is said, that it is also the one back, although quality is good.

There are superior software, but very expensive as catia of the dassault and nx of the siemens.

 

[dide]

Thanks for the answer. What about the rest? Can you tell me where I can find material to hang me? any advice on how to start and progress?

 

[gil]

switching from modeling 2d (in autocad I imagine) to that 3d with inventor is anything but easy and immediate. It takes time and dedication especially at the beginning.

1) the first thing you can do is go on the help of the autodesk.http://help.autodesk.com/view/invntor/2014/ita/2) watch videos on youtube.

3) buy you a manual, there are different. I prefer videoguides but it is a personal opinion.

4) buy a videoguidehttp://www.infiniteskills.com/inventor/5) take a course. specialized firms cost a lot, but there are private companies offering lower prices. However it is to check the quality.

6) try, try. practice is an irreplaceable element.

 

[dide]

thanks for the most exhaustive answer. I want to start doing something, and I hope I don't put a life to start making some small models. more than anything else I would like to find some example type of exercise to hang me, I don't have much material to work on

 

[citri]

examples and tutorials of basic concepts, find them both in the online autodesk guide, both on youtube, and in this forum. and for those missing, just write here your doubt that usually in very short time you receive very exhaustive answers.
I also came for years and years of cad 2d and inventor I learned it practically alone in the office, during moments of calm. the best way I think is to take all the time necessary and not want to do things in a hurry, put down a small idea of a project so as to work on the creation of parts -> assemblings -> table of the parts -> axious tables -> etc.
just bring the mouse over a command and press f1, automatically you will open the guide for that specific command and also, always throw an eye down to left, as for autocad, inventor "dialogue" much with the user and tells you/he asks what to do.

 

[stefanorso]

Good morning to all, I hope to be in the most appropriate discussion.
in a few days I will start working at another company. I have worked with autocad since 1995 and in parallel with proes in the last 4 years so I know well the 2d and 3d parametric. I have always designed more or less complex machinery in details and their layout in layout. This new company supported an external study (but now there is no more) and builds quite complex agricultural machinery.
to this company was sold autocad 2012 and fusion 2012 probably taking advantage of their ignorance in the topic and their will to spend little for the software. (when I was asked I had recommended the great classics like proe, inventor, solidwork, solidedge. . . )
I tried to use fusion a couple of days and I convinced myself that it is not exactly indicated to design machinery being non- parametric. What do you think? especially you know how to tell me if fusion is able to:
1) calculate the development of sheets and change them quickly when necessary in the design process.
2) manage large axioms and subaxis and number of details
3) modify and update parts however to leave track of previous versions
4) design and test cinemas
5) make partial or explosive representations for shop lifters or instruction booklets
thanks to your collaboration!

 

[Tarkus]

to this company that has been sold autocad 2012 and fusion 2012 (hope sold in 2011) you can propose to contact the autodesk dealer and ask for an offer for an upgrade to inventor, should not be a brine.
differently forget to work and especially design with fusion.