layer change and performance

[GiGa]

inventor 2010 sp1 64bit on view64.
in a drawing, if I change layer to the edges of a 30th of parts, the good inventor goes to the ball and chipping all the available memory and even more...
already only to change layers takes us "a life" (more than a few minutes), but I don't explain why after affectionate the operation not free the ram.
fact is that now from about ten minutes is grinding only to save the file.. .
the pc that I use will not be more than the most recent (q6600@3.2ghz with 4gb ram), but I do not think it is very normal that this...

In fact... now he's finished saving and freed 2gb and rams... boh

Do you get the same thing?

 

[Ilario]

I've never changed layers to anything... where does this need come from?

 

[pagnotz]

I've never changed layers to anything... where does this need come from?

In fact, neither do I...

 

[stefanobruno]

In fact, neither do I...

In fact, neither do I...

 

[GiGa]

I don't know.

as I have already said before (of the design part of inventor it is understood that I don't know much, do I?), echo from inventor the views to be processed then in autocad.
I had the idea that I wouldn't mind putting on a layer (slim) the contour parts, even for an easy selection in autocad...

But just to understand, how do you assimilate in inventor? all visible edges on one layer?

 

[pagnotz]

I leave everything as an inventor does by default, never created problems.
Besides I never use autocad to make the boards, I do everything in inventor without problems, sometimes at the end I have to convert to dwg or dxf for needs of others who have no inventor or to charge them in numerical control machines.

 

[Ilario]

Now, I don't know if I understood well, but years and years ago I set up the .ini file that you create during export (with a lot of evidence before) from .idw to .dwg is I set everything as I had in autocad before switching to inventor.
I know there are different ways of working (such as those who use layers for objects and change type and color of line and those who use layers according to the type of line), but the least painful one from autocad inv is to use different layers for different type of line.
set everything in inventor in style management by setting layers and defult object of everything, then when you save copy with name in .dwg click in options and with moooolta calm try to understand the various options proposed to export objects correctly.

Do you understand? If you don't understand, or if I don't understand, let me know.

 

[stefanobruno]

But just to understand, how do you assimilate in inventor? all visible edges on one layer?

Yes, you can't do otherwise (or better I don't think you can do it).
However also drawing in 2d with autocad we never distinguish between layers for the edges of individual details.
in 20 years of design (since 1990 with the cad) I have only been able to find a client who wanted the layers linked to the particular, then changed his mind:biggrin:

between the other, in inventor, the concept of layer is quite negligible, unless it serves to export in autocad, as you do.

Bye.

 

[Ilario]

....

between the other, in inventor, the concept of layer is quite negligible, unless it serves to export in autocad, as you do.

Bye.

exact, or those very rare times that served me to make two lines of sketch for "I don't remember what" and you want to change type of line (tracked, axis or contour) and make it visible.

 

[GiGa]

what I don't understand is how you manage the various parts of a plant, for example following the customer standards. . .
leaving (for the moment) the export for autocad, I'm working on the lines of piping for a cartiera.. .
to better evaluate the encumbrances, I obviously modeled the part in the building that interests me and then I have to show in the axieme.
Of course, however, the building must have its own layer (also to have it printed in thin) as well as the different lines of the plant must be placed on different layers (as standard of the customer) in order to be able to turn on/off "to the need" the desired pipe.. .
in autocad is easy... but in inventor how would you do/do?

@ilario:
if I did not misunderstand the "your" workflow, solve the problem at the root (directly in the management of the part). the hippo comes out when, according to a certain set, the layers must be different from those set in the parts (for example grouping everything on a single "thin" layer or because the same parts are used in multiple lines). .
Anyway, when I have more time I study better.

but, apart from everything, also to you inv2010 goes ball when trying to change layers to a (bel) bit of edges?

 

[Ilario]

Here, then your problem is what I mentioned before, having "objects" on different layers not "line types" on different layers. In fact, this cannot be handled "automatically" in inventor (I think there was a very old discussion about it maybe before the big crash).

The fact that you don't understand me, it's because I never did, but I can prove... It's not that I've got very big asses. .

 

[Peppe]

Are you mechanical? ?
if you open it, open table inventor, save by name and choose option save as mechanical or similar (I know that until inv 11 you could do). .
This allows you to save a dwg with the layers of the files that are in the axieme... (so no longer visible, visible thin etc.... )
but every part has its layer... .

 

[Ilario]

Here I was expecting your answer... I knew you knew it

 

[Stiky]

what I don't understand is how you manage the various parts of a plant, for example following the customer standards. . .
leaving (for the moment) the export for autocad, I'm working on the lines of piping for a cartiera.. .
to better evaluate the encumbrances, I obviously modeled the part in the building that interests me and then I have to show in the axieme.
Of course, however, the building must have its own layer (also to have it printed in thin) as well as the different lines of the plant must be placed on different layers (as standard of the customer) in order to be able to turn on/off "to the need" the desired pipe.. .
in autocad is easy... but in inventor how would you do/do?

@ilario:
if I did not misunderstand the "your" workflow, solve the problem at the root (directly in the management of the part). the hippo comes out when, according to a certain set, the layers must be different from those set in the parts (for example grouping everything on a single "thin" layer or because the same parts are used in multiple lines). .
Anyway, when I have more time I study better.

but, apart from everything, also to you inv2010 goes ball when trying to change layers to a (bel) bit of edges?

Usually in inventor situations like this are managed with views in the axieme. However, if you have to "spegnere" and "light" components on the table I do not see any other solution than changing layers to the part (not to the lines, but selecting the whole part).

 

[GiGa]

Are you mechanical? ?
if you open it, open table inventor, save by name and choose option save as mechanical or similar (I know that until inv 11 you could do). .

Of course you can also do 2010 but save only in 2010 format... seen some incompatibility issues that I had in the past with this company (probably their fault, but so much...) now I work for them only with mechanical 2007. for this I want to avoid exporting to 2010 and then convert.

that the layer change in inventor knows that it has something wrong... sometimes it is almost immediate, sometimes (almost always) puts us a life (ciucciandosi all the available ram)... vabbè, I am less to do everything in autocad... First or later I will seriously address the inventor boards (to have the time I would do it immediately, but for now the incombable deadlines).

 

[pagnotz]

... first or later I will seriously address the inventor boards (to have the time I would do it immediately, but for now the incombable deadlines).

If you can encourage me to make the tables is the easiest thing to inventor, there is almost nothing to learn

 

[Ilario]

If you can encourage me to make the tables is the easiest thing to inventor, there is almost nothing to learn

Well, oh, my God, wait.... if we only talk about applying quotas yes, but if you want to set the cartilage with iproperties and styles it takes its beautiful caxxi before setting everything ad hoc....

 

[pagnotz]

Well, oh, my God, wait.... if we only talk about applying quotas yes, but if you want to set the cartilage with iproperties and styles it takes its beautiful caxxi before setting everything ad hoc....

it is ok maybe I exaggerated a bit, I refer to normal use, where there are also there things to learn of course, but it is all very intuitive.

 

[ReFazzi]

I had some time ago the need to change the layer to several edges at once and I noticed that the good outcome and duration (even several minutes) of the operation depended also on what I was selecting with windows. improved the operation a targeted selection of lines. I didn't deepen much because it was an occasional occurrence and I didn't waste any more time.
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