license conversion

[Bortoluzzi Gianluigi]

Good evening, everyone.
I wanted to know if it ever happened to someone to convert a mach 3 license with a similar economic value.
I'll explain. I have changed type of work and I find myself not to fully exploit the potential of my mach 3 Moldova design.
made evaluations I convinced myself to convert my license with a mach 3 indust design that to list turns out to be at the same cost.

good work and thank you.

 

[Team3d]

Good evening, everyone.
I wanted to know if it ever happened to someone to convert a mach 3 license with a similar economic value.
I'll explain. I have changed type of work and I find myself not to fully exploit the potential of my mach 3 Moldova design.
made evaluations I convinced myself to convert my license with a mach 3 indust design that to list turns out to be at the same cost.

good work and thank you.

Hi gianluigi,
to us it happened to manage for our customers of similar cases.
Technically it is possible and you should contact the business that follows you for more information about the cost and documents you need.

 

[ceschi1959]

Hi gianluigi,

In addition to my experience, which you already know, and to stimulate someone else to tell his, I inform you that similar request was made by a colleague of mine to his dealer in July 2011.
the offer received previewed the difference of list and a year of maintenance (as I did). in the offer it was specified that such treatment was valid until the end of September because subsequently the conditions would change.

Hi.

 

[Bortoluzzi Gianluigi]

and here we come to the painful note. to me they proposed a change of the quota for greater maintenance and a cost that was equal to an average license of nx. Sincerely, it seems absurd to me, not counting the times that run. then speaking of certain figures one also begins to consider other cad. without anything to remove to the qualities of nx.
I opened this discussion in order to see if someone had any feedback or advice to give me.
p.s: I made request in late 2010 with the return to maintenance and stressed the thing during the year to arrive at the end of 2011 with the offer described above. Knowing previous policies, it's enough for me.

Thank you.

 

[Team3d]

and here we come to the painful note. to me they proposed a change of the quota for greater maintenance and a cost that was equal to an average license of nx. Sincerely, it seems absurd to me, not counting the times that run. then speaking of certain figures one also begins to consider other cad. without anything to remove to the qualities of nx.
I opened this discussion in order to see if someone had any feedback or advice to give me.
p.s: I made request in late 2010 with the return to maintenance and stressed the thing during the year to arrive at the end of 2011 with the offer described above. Knowing previous policies, it's enough for me.

Thank you.

I confirm that the calculation of upgrades has changed and the new method of calculation (not simple and leaving some perplexity) is worsening for modules that have similar prices. I understand the anger of having lost time and it is x that we try to be responsive on these matters.

 

[Bortoluzzi Gianluigi]

What leaves me base is that trade policy is not the same for everyone. I was told that the new calculation formula was introduced from April, while hearing other choirs the term was late September.
It seems unfair to me. I do not want to argue (although the motivations would be there), but I find myself flattered and bound.


Thank you.

 

[IPdesign]

I understand that it is not so much the trade policy siemens, as well as your reference business that could not meet your needs.

now, without anything to remove to the professionalism of team 3d with which I have a consolidated relationship for several years, my doubt becomes another

How is it possible that siemens cannot control the work of his var ?
or better how is it possible for a var to care about its customers?
Perhaps why gianluigi is a "small" user and not milionate of € must be treated as a second-level user?
Well as he says if this is the treatment, his var I think he's digging his own grave.

one last thing that shakes me in the head and I take advantage of the presence of team3d
but if a customer is not happy with the work of his var he can ask to be followed by another of his preference:wink: or is he forced to keep what seems to be a ball to the foot?
If so were you lying... I'm sorry to say but looking around...


It is a delicate matter to me that we are trying to maintain a constructive and educated tone.
messages tending to trigger flame will be removed without notice

 

[Dade73]

I understand that it is not so much the trade policy siemens, as well as your reference business that could not meet your needs.

now, without anything to remove to the professionalism of team 3d with which I have a consolidated relationship for several years, my doubt becomes another

How is it possible that siemens cannot control the work of his var ?
or better how is it possible for a var to care about its customers?
Perhaps why gianluigi is a "small" user and not milionate of € must be treated as a second-level user?
Well as he says if this is the treatment, his var I think he's digging his own grave.

one last thing that shakes me in the head and I take advantage of the presence of team3d
but if a customer is not happy with the work of his var he can ask to be followed by another of his preference:wink: or is he forced to keep what seems to be a ball to the foot?
If so were you lying... I'm sorry to say but looking around...


It is a delicate matter to me that we are trying to maintain a constructive and educated tone.
messages tending to trigger flame will be removed without notice

I can only quote in full as reported.

I can only add my difficulty (not to use other terms) in understanding certain policies trade them.

I think that like me and my company many of you daily, try to chase a market always + poor, on which + of the times is only right in terms of always + low prices, and when you tear with teeth and nails a cursed order, you find difficulties at the time of recess.

I am based on seeing how some companies communicate with non chalance increases on which no trade negotiation is transient.

 

[Team3d]

What leaves me base is that trade policy is not the same for everyone. I was told that the new calculation formula was introduced from April, while hearing other choirs the term was late September.
It seems unfair to me. I do not want to argue (although the motivations would be there), but I find myself flattered and bound.


Thank you.

I don't want to be a devil's lawyer....but consider that the difference you find can be given by the difference between direct sales (siemens) and indirect or channel (resellers) is not said that the introduction of new rules is perfectly phony. for us retailers the new upgrade policy was explained in mid-September and operational surrender of early October. In April, we didn't even know there was a change. Are you followed by siemens?

 

[Team3d]

I understand that it is not so much the trade policy siemens, as well as your reference business that could not meet your needs.

now, without anything to remove to the professionalism of team 3d with which I have a consolidated relationship for several years, my doubt becomes another

How is it possible that siemens cannot control the work of his var ?
or better how is it possible for a var to care about its customers?
Perhaps why gianluigi is a "small" user and not milionate of € must be treated as a second-level user?
Well as he says if this is the treatment, his var I think he's digging his own grave.

one last thing that shakes me in the head and I take advantage of the presence of team3d
but if a customer is not happy with the work of his var he can ask to be followed by another of his preference:wink: or is he forced to keep what seems to be a ball to the foot?
If so were you lying... I'm sorry to say but looking around...


It is a delicate matter to me that we are trying to maintain a constructive and educated tone.
messages tending to trigger flame will be removed without notice

thanks ip design of the consideration that you place in us that is definitely corresponded. I remember, however, that it is not said that gianluigi is followed by a var and as I explained before, the rules can be introduced in different times for organizational reasons.
coming to the delicate question that arises we live in a free (perhaps or at least in appearance) market. a customer is not obliged to stay with a var until the end of the days and this can be dictated both by technical/commercial deficiencies and also by lack of feeling (as it said red valentine..." I cannot be sympathetic to all":biggrin. The first thing I say is, we respect the contracts in force! and therefore in the terms provided for by all contracts (usually 60 days before the date of departure) a cancellation can be sent by a registered letter with return receipt to the var and a communication to siemens. I repeat this is a delicate subject that goes to alter the relations between us var and siemens itself. it happened to us to manage passages but only if at the base there was a technical motivation and not purely for a discount request. specified this side "end users" now we come to our relationship and contract with siemens. to us it is expressly forbidden to do activities of any kind on customers followed by siemens directly.

 

[Bortoluzzi Gianluigi]

Thank you all for the information you are transferring to this discussion, which I hope will come to someone's ear. :

At this point I have to say that I am fruity. I am followed directly by mom siemens and so if I have not understood badly I can not even change?
Basically, it's like taking her to that place twice. .

a domandina... but if someone, perhaps a little angry and tired for not getting adequate support, exit from the maintenance contract through the recommended quote then can enter the customer list var?

good weekend to all.