lighten heavy design containing dynamic blocks

[raf]

248kb, crazy!! !

But where's the problem then? ? ?

I recreated it identical, same size, same description, same series but I saved it in 2007.

I don't know where to slam my head, that the old block is carrying some crap? ? ?

 

[Joseph]

to better define the problem:
- the attribute entered it in the block editor or was already there when you uploaded the block to the block editor
- What do you need to save a design with dynamic blocks in 2004?
- if this file opens it with 2004, the block keeps its dynamic features?
- saving it in 2004, the file normally decreases in size, because it loses references to parameters, actions and various overlapping blocks.
- in your file you performed a data extraction operation from attributes: may have connected something to your block

 

[raf]

- the attribute entered it in the block editor or was already there when you uploaded the block to the block editor

I entered it while creating the block (from zero).

- What do you need to save a design with dynamic blocks in 2004?

I need it because here where I work I save everything in 2004 for "problems" compatibility with customers (antichi).

- if this file opens it with 2004, the block keeps its dynamic features?

Yes because we work quietly deforming the blocks to pleasure.

- saving it in 2004, the file normally decreases in size, because it loses references to parameters, actions and various overlapping blocks.

It doesn't seem like my case since he kept all the features I gave him...

- in your file you performed a data extraction operation from attributes: may have connected something to your block

not that I know (I don't even know how to do...:biggrin

However now I put myself with extreme patience and I regrow all the blocks from scratch saving them also in 2007, let's see if that's better.

 

[raf]

nothing to do, inserting in a drawing already made 6492 blocks (all equal with description) the same design passes from 800kb approximately to 1.8mb, and I should insert at least 3 times.. .
I don't know where to bang my head anymore! :frown:

block created and saved in 2009 (Save 2007).

 

[linch]

nothing to do, inserting in a drawing already made 6492 blocks (all equal with description) the same design passes from 800kb approximately to 1.8mb, and I should insert at least 3 times.. .
I don't know where to bang my head anymore! :frown:

block created and saved in 2009 (Save 2007).

try to make a copy-paste on a new design,save,purge.

 

[PlannerRoad]

try to make a copy-paste on a new design,save,purge.

He already did.
I believe the problem lies in autocad, evidently such a large number of dynamic blocks containing attributes creates problems then in file management.

@raf
can you attach the file from 6492 blocks? I want to see how he handles it in 2010.

 

[lattu]

However the purge must be done before entering the new block.

 

[Joseph]

I repeat again, and others say so:
autocad 2006 dynamic blocks inserted into an autocad 2004 or 2005 session will be treated like any other block insertion — with the dynamic properties ignored. autocad 2002 and prior versions cannot process dynamic blocks because they can't interpret the autocad 2006 dwg format. I know you don't tell us all :36_1_5:

 

[raf]

I have a suspicion:
and if the drawings with which I work, coming from who knows who and handed down over the years through countless cut'n pastes, made with who knows what version of autocad, while saved by me in 2007, do not fully support the new features?
i.e. in a few words I work in 2009 and save in 2007 but the files in which I then insert my blocks were maybe created with 2004 or worse and this maybe is the problem.
Can it be?

 

[raf]

@raf
can you attach the file from 6492 blocks? I want to see how he handles it in 2010.

I did a test:
Virgin design, block created and saved in 2010, 6396 dynamic blocks with attribute: 1.552kb file weight.
I think this is his weight and there is little to do.

 

[Joseph]

I did a test:
Virgin design, block created and saved in 2010, 6396 dynamic blocks with attribute: 1.552kb file weight.
I think this is his weight and there is little to do.

is not said, depends on how much your block weighs: I don't think he weighs more than a mega.
Why don't you let us try?

 

[raf]

Gladly!

this is the one created in 2010:

 

[numero1]

I downloaded design2.zip, and both with 2007 and 2009 gives me a strange problem, or I don't understand.
for convenience I placed the lower left corner of the dis. on 0.0.0 I put limits on from 0.0 to the extreme corner (high dx) then with the status command I checked where it actually arrives.
to me gives this:

model space limits are x: 0.00 y: 0.00 (off)
x: 22987.53 y: 7140.60
model space x: -12.47 y: 0.00 **over
x: 22987.53 y: 7140.60
display shows x: -1211.55 y: -365.80
x: 2067.68 y: 1735.35
insertion base is x: 0.00 y: 0.00 z: 0.00
snap resolution is x: 10.00 y: 10.00
grid spacing is x: 10.00 y: 10.00

current space: model space
current layout: model
current layer: "2"
current color: bylayer -- 55
current linetype: bylayer -- "continuous"
current material: bylayer -- "global"
current lineweight: bylayer
current elevation: 0.00 thickness: 0.00
fill on grid off ortho off qtext off snap off tablet off
object snap modes: center, endpoint, intersection, extension

cosa ne pensate di quel -12.47 ?
a me non era mai capitato fino ad ora.

ciao ciao

 

[lattu]

However, consider that the old block is inserted in the drawing2 file.
when raf redefined the file size has greatly decreased and surely several hidden errors have been deleted

 

[PlannerRoad]

Gladly!

this is the one created in 2010:

the problem is in the block!!!
because that rectangle is actually a covering entity and not a normal rectangular polylinea! ! ! !
delete that covering entity and replace it with a normal rectangle consisting of polylinese and you will see that the file will gain in "gestibility".
unless you for some particular reason had voluntarily chosen to use a covering entity....
After redefining the block, do a nice purge.

 

[raf]

Yes, the covering entity is wanted and I am very comfortable to keep it.. .

The only thing I could actually delete is the description, with the name of the block once in excel the description I hook it up.

 

[PlannerRoad]

Yes, the covering entity is wanted and I am very comfortable to keep it.. .

The only thing I could actually delete is the description, with the name of the block once in excel the description I hook it up.

is the entity covering the cause of slowing down in file management.
try to eliminate it and see.
I've eliminated that or you've got the problem! :wink:

 

[Joseph]

I compared 3 files (vers. 2009)
1- 2 blocks (with attribute) (the 1^ with a rectangle, the 2^ with whipout) -> 70kb
2- series of 10000 blocks (retangle) -> 306 kb
3- series of 10000 blocks (whipout) - 526 kb

Where's the problem?
also because, initially, he didn't talk about slowing down but only of abnormal file size

 

[raf]

I have temporarily "resolved" abolishing the covering element and attribute.
But now I was already trying to make another dynamic block version and I wondered if, through the object attribute linked to the colored outer polyline (which gives me the color of the same), it was possible redefine numerically this color.

example:
I admit the block, in the advanced attribute editor I see the color attribute with its numerical value, I want to change it and make the polyline to it associated color changes.

Is that possible?