male and female thread with st 6

[MARCOO]

I am sorry as always for the trivial question:
I should build a male thread and then the particular female ( nut ) 1/2"g . I don't have manual , you know if somewhere there is an explanation about how to do ? thanks a thousand to all .

 

[Be_on_edge]

for the male you must first create a 1/2"g diameter cylinder (21.3 mm) and then use the thread command (selections first the cylinder and then the edge from which it leaves. the conicity you find in the options).

for the female instead uses the "hole" command and in the options go to select that it is threaded and of which measure.

Hi.

 

[MARCOO]

In the meantime thank you many , I had tried with an example m10 "standard and it worked ", but with 1/2"g (my case ) I could not, thank you again, I will let you know just return to the office .. hello

 

[MARCOO]

I just tried with an example.
with a thread m10 no problem.
When I try to make a fil. 1/2" g it gives me this message:
"Impossible to find an equivalent diameter in the holes.txt or pipethreads.txt files threads cannot be updated "
I think I miss something in the library...
how can I add this type of threads?
Thank you very much to all.
Hi.

 

[Be_on_edge]

I just tried with an example.
with a thread m10 no problem.
When I try to make a fil. 1/2" g it gives me this message:
"Impossible to find an equivalent diameter in the holes.txt or pipethreads.txt files threads cannot be updated "
I think I miss something in the library...
how can I add this type of threads?
Thank you very much to all.
Hi.

test with 21,7 I remembered that I modified thread configuration files to use gas pipe measurements.

Hi.

 

[MARCOO]

perfect! with 21,7 works.
in this way if you give me as rp 1/2 14 type threading opportunity which is correct.
I solved this problem.
but how do you give it this "strange" value when the diameter for cylindrical gas uni 338 would be 20,96?
If I had to make another fl. es 3/4" which diameter should I put?
Thank you very much
Hi.

 

[vespa_83]

in c:\programs\solid edge\
search hole.txt
connect to the desktop
open it and search

 

[MARCOO]

found files, but forgive me how and where to intervene? is it not that you can kindly send me your file where you intervened so as to see where and what data are to edit or add x new threads?
Thanks and sorry

 

[MARCOO]

example : be on edge told me that I had to correct my east diameter for the modification of the male fil 1/2" g from 20,96 (correct ) to 21,7 (which I have seen in table if ).

21.7; 15; 19.793; 12.7; 1.162; r 1/2-14; r 1/2-14; r

What are the 15, 19,793 , 12,7 1,162 ...... ?
Thank you.

 

[vespa_83]

it would be better not to edit the numerical values. I edited the labels type m.5 with m0,5

search: 1/2" g

copy-neck what written in my old holes.txt (in st versions was replaced by excel files)

\\\ the fields of this file are:
Rated diameter
Lower inner diameter
\\ outer lower diameter
\\ thread type
\\ thread group

\\ for the feature hole:
\\\ in the user interface is listed and is used to select the size the
Nominal diameter but a hole equal to the lower inner diameter is created

\\ for the thread feature:
\\ for inner threads (holes) the hole must be shaped on the lower inner diameter
\\ for external threads (albers) the cylinder must be model on the nominal diameter

\\ the threading group is used to classify similar threads for
\\\ allow to automatically assign the size of the thread when changing the
\\ diameter below. solid edge keeps the thread group but looks for diameter
Suitable for the model.

 

[MARCOO]

Thank you.
I try inserting in the table a new thread with correct values that is not present, except the file and then I build such thread with an example in itself.
Thank you.
Hi.

 

[vespa_83]

it would be better not to edit the numerical values.
next time you have to do a male thread in inches, open the holes.txt, give us the measure es: 1/4
then try to write in the feaure the largest value:
13.157; 11.445; 11.445; 1/4; g

or cylinder diameter=13.157 with all decimals.

you will see that it works

 

[Be_on_edge]

example : be on edge told me that I had to correct my east diameter for the modification of the male fil 1/2" g from 20,96 (correct ) to 21,7 (which I have seen in table if ).

21.7; 15; 19.793; 12.7; 1.162; r 1/2-14; r 1/2-14; r

What are the 15, 19,793 , 12,7 1,162 ...... ?
Thank you.

it is assumed that the gas threads go to make it on pipes, the tube of 1/2"g has diameter 21,3 I therefore edited the excel files inserting precisely these measures. also because the tubes design them in their real diameter.

I have no idea why it was originally placed 21.7 instead of 21.3

in any case you can go to customize the sheets as you prefer, it is not difficult, just read the recommendations.

Hi.

 

[MARCOO]

Thank you so much I can not connect the meaning of the values shown in table if with those of the tables except for the cylindrical gas threads (g ) and conical gases (rp ) .
for the metrics (the ones used ) I do not see correspondence ...
Could you please send xls files even if not compatible x st6 in order to reason us on and fill out the correct st6 tables?
thank you and I'm sorry if I'm breaking but I'd like to understand ....x then don't break + on this topic.
Hi.

 

[vespa_83]

in post #10 I put the descriptions of the fields, read it again.

 

[MARCOO]

The tables shall contain a nominal diameter, an average diameter and a diameter of hazelnuts in the table if, for example, the following data are given for a fil m10x1:
10 ;7.4; 9; 6.2; 0.581; m10x1; m10x1; m10x1; m

10= nominal diameter
7.4 = ?
9= ?
6.2 = ?
0.581 = ?
m10x1 = type of thread
m = thread membership group

post 10 does not fully report these explanations.
this is why the further question

Thank you.

 

[Be_on_edge]

The tables shall contain a nominal diameter, an average diameter and a diameter of hazelnuts in the table if, for example, the following data are given for a fil m10x1:
10 ;7.4; 9; 6.2; 0.581; m10x1; m10x1; m10x1; m

10= nominal diameter
7.4 = ?
9= ?
6.2 = ?
0.581 = ?
m10x1 = type of thread
m = thread membership group

post 10 does not fully report these explanations.
this is why the further question

Thank you.

thread m10 x 1 is shown in the "conical gas line" section and I have no idea where it is used or what norm it refers to.

a m10 thread (i.e. big step 1.5) has the following measurements on the uni metric.xlsx configuration sheet

10 = nominal diameter
8,5 = drilling diameter
8,376 = lower inner diameter (female or maternal)
8,160 = lower external diameter (maximum or screw)

These measures correspond exactly to what is reported on the standard.
http://www.larapedia.com/filettature/immagine-filettature-metriche-iso-a-profilo-triangolare-a-passo-grosso.jpg

 

[MARCOO]

uni metric.xlsx is the whole config sheet itself?
If so maybe your xls table is + complete.
Maybe that's why we don't understand
inside to st6 there is a txt with the info I had reported in the previous msg . in case I reported it is a metric thread to fine pitch (m10x1 ) reported in the txt file of if I do not find correspondence with the table uni . what for other types of fiettature example cylindrical gas (g ) and conic (rp ) the correspondence there is .
unfortunately the most used are the metrics......

 

[Be_on_edge]

uni metric.xlsx is the whole config sheet itself?
If so maybe your xls table is + complete.
Maybe that's why we don't understand
inside to st6 there is a txt with the info I had reported in the previous msg . in case I reported it is a metric thread to fine pitch (m10x1 ) reported in the txt file of if I do not find correspondence with the table uni . what for other types of fiettature example cylindrical gas (g ) and conic (rp ) the correspondence there is .
unfortunately the most used are the metrics......

from st7 the settings have been migrated to excel sheets and many changes have been made to the interface to recalcate and configure different standards.

I thought it was done before but I checked and st6 is the latest version that uses txt sheets.

Hi.

 

[vespa_83]

in old versions of solid edge threads were managed by two files present in the program folders:
- for cylindrical threads
- pipe*.txt: for conical threads (*I no longer remember the name if it were pipethread or pipehole. ...

were replaced by st3 or 4 (?) by excel files.

I do not believe the authors' intention was to indicate processing measures but to have representation data.
for cylindrical threads serve two cylinders (i.e. two draft wheels), one large equal to the nominal, one small.

for the conical threads I do not often happen to do and I am not very grasped, but the concept I suppose is similar and have made a table with the larger diameter (on a tube where you make a male thread equal to the east rough of the tube), then the other values are internal and probably serve the program to determine the inclination and the maximum height of this cone that will have in the head of the minimum diameters.

if the drafter is prepared to indicate in the draft the parameters of conical thread, in these cases I leave the cad to make the 3d and the table, but in the table I carry the values taken from tables taken from the norms or agreed with the operator equipped with own tables and tools. i.e. not the thread.