modeling of cables and tubes

[Fabietto]

Hello.
As from title I have more and more the need to model, more than anything for aesthetic purposes and perhaps to better understand some wiring, electric wires and flexible pipes for pneumatic systems. very simple things of elementary plants.

I have seen that there are 2 applications in particular, wiring and piping, but I think they are too pushy for what I need.

what I do occasionally and create a curve through a set of points (points defined by a csys), and then make a sweep, even if the definition of points I find it a little laborious.
other thing I want to keep under control is the length of the cable.

For example, I would like to create a library of electrical resistors that have the coiled cable like when you buy it, and then, once assembled in the axieme, unroll the cable along the path that you have to do while keeping the cable length under control so as to understand whether the length is sufficient or you have to make a joint.

It would take us that the definition of the cable path could be done by clicking points in the space and then pro/e auto-purchase the quotas of the points regarding a defined csys, but I think that this is clashed with the parameterity of the system.

or with wiring or piping applications can you do?

use wf2

I hope it's not too complex, especially in the management of the cable path, otherwise I better let the electrician do as I have done so far. .

thanks for the collaboration

Good weekend, everyone.

fabio

 

[maxopus]

I have often used the pipe command in the past but not in the way you requested.
in the sense that I realize for example a serpentine of refrigeration and after I read the development.
I think of the bmx module (the behavioral modeling module), so you can establish the initial conditions for component development.

But it is better to wait for someone who knows the subject well and perhaps suggests a simpler solution.

 

[Fabietto]

hello maxopus, however from that little I tried to pipe, even the trajectory passes through points, or wrong?

 

[AMinati]

in the pro/piping application there are numerous possibilities to create paths along which to pass pipes and/or cablings including also that through a set of points.

aminati

 

[DANI-3D]

Hello.

to represent cables or pipes this method:

I create plans, if necessary, where with one or more sketch I draw the path of the cable.
with the sweep surface command I include the lines drawn previously and establish the diameter.
to determine the length of the initial sketch and save the feature you want I can import through the relationships in a parameter

 

[Fabietto]

thank you all,

@ Aminati, do you know if by any chance there is a way to create points faster than the csys offset? type to select with the mouse a zone on the screen and they are created the point, then pro-e acquires the location of the point?
at the moment if I create a csys offset point, the point starts from 0-0-0 of the csys and I have to set the odds or draw it axis by axis where I want.

@ dani-3d, your idea is about what I do now, although wiring takes on a more linear look from rigid tubes more than from flexible cables.

cmq joining some ideas you gave me, I should be able to do something good.

 

[cletus]

Hi, I build the cables with spline curves passing through points.
a short cable I define it with the only starting/end points, setting the direction in these points (if needed) and changing the path through the tweak command, inside the same command of creation of the curve (you can add points and drag them to deform the curve).
if the cable is longer and if I have geometries that impose the passage, then I cuckold the curve for several points.
therefore active together the part of the cable and I create the points, defining them for example at the center of a circle or distant from faces or plans of other parts, but rarely I define them as you do with distance from the csys.
for the length problem you could do so: once you define the curve, build on it a point by defining the position (offset) as a real length from an extreme.point you can use to cut/off the curve.

 

[blubossa]

......... what if someone attaches an example?? could be more educational.

Hi.

 

[DANI-3D]

here is my example

 

[Fabietto]

beautiful cletus, the idea of the point on the curve set as real length is good,
I had the idea of going through the analysis features, even if I hadn't tried and didn't have a precise idea of how to do it.

I usually do points like csys offset of the cable part because so I can load the part on another similar set and change the path without big problems. .
or sometimes I make a hybrid, i.e. for start and end path I weigh points through copy geometry from the start and end parts, for the central part of the path step through csys offset points.
if I have to load the cable part on another set, I just need to do a reroute feat of copy geometry.