more reference systems in the same file

[Alberto26]

Good morning.

I should do more work in different areas of the same piece, so I should create more reference systems.

I tried to do this but the processing only comes out correct on the first reference system I created!

So my question is: how can I do to create multiple reference systems on a single file so as to work the whole piece on the same file and maybe be able to really see the finished piece rough?

until now I have created more files of the same mechanical piece and I have worked all sides but with this method I can not really see the finished crude.

I have a 3 axes toptron 12 license.

greetings to all and thank you in advance.

 

[cimaguy]

Good morning.

I should do more work in different areas of the same piece, so I should create more reference systems.

I tried to do this but the processing only comes out correct on the first reference system I created!

So my question is: how can I do to create multiple reference systems on a single file so as to work the whole piece on the same file and maybe be able to really see the finished piece rough?

until now I have created more files of the same mechanical piece and I have worked all sides but with this method I can not really see the finished crude.

I have a 3 axes toptron 12 license.

greetings to all and thank you in advance.

to do work of this type you have to:
1)create the crude on the origin of the first placing and perform the procedures according to that origin.(usually I as first origin use the "model")
2)I define the other axle (which will have the rotated z of 90 or 180° etc.).
3) activate the latter and carry out my work.

Nb: it is necessary to have the post-processor enabled to do these operations, especially if we are using a post gpp1!!

 

[Alberto26]

to do work of this type you have to:
1)create the crude on the origin of the first placing and perform the procedures according to that origin.(usually I as first origin use the "model")
2)I define the other axle (which will have the rotated z of 90 or 180° etc.).
3) activate the latter and carry out my work.

Nb: it is necessary to have the post-processor enabled to do these operations, especially if we are using a post gpp1!!

Good evening,

How do I know if my post is enabled to do this?

I did this way (I allego screen), but in the car only the model works. If maybe you send me a file with your example in mp maybe I can understand better. Thank you and good evening.

 

[cimaguy]

Good evening,

How do I know if my post is enabled to do this?

I did this way (I allego screen), but in the car only the model works. If maybe you send me a file with your example in mp maybe I can understand better. View attachment 44395Thank you and good evening.

Hi.
...you don't need to create the second crude 5x... what you did at first will be updated by the procedure with the second orientation.
for the post: the path created in this way (in the same p.u.) needs a post 5 axes or however able to manage the connection between the two origins

 

[Alberto26]

Hi.
...you don't need to create the second crude 5x... what you did at first will be updated by the procedure with the second orientation.
for the post: the path created in this way (in the same p.u.) needs a post 5 axes or however able to manage the connection between the two origins

Man... I only own a 3-axis post...so this procedure cannot be used in my case? Is there another method to "add" this problem?

 

[cimaguy]

Man... I only own a 3-axis post...so this procedure cannot be used in my case? Is there another method to "add" this problem?

...depend: if you have a 5 axle machine and want to work continuously you must have a post that understands 5x connections.
otherwise you must divide the work: first work with a terna (then in the first p.u. you will have only procedures made with the same system of ref.), then ruoti the head according to the new ucs and do the other jobs created with the second terna .
Also in this case, must be checked if the post can process according to different origins.

 

[Alberto26]

...depend: if you have a 5 axle machine and want to work continuously you must have a post that understands 5x connections.
otherwise you must divide the work: first work with a terna (then in the first p.u. you will have only procedures made with the same system of ref.), then ruoti the head according to the new ucs and do the other jobs created with the second terna .
Also in this case, must be checked if the post can process according to different origins.

I have a 3 axes so I can't turn my head

 

[cimaguy]

I have a 3 axes so I can't turn my head

then turn the piece into the car and do separate jobs.
Always check your post if it's enabled.

 

[Alberto26]

perfect, last thing, I'm insistent but this could be useful to many toptron users, could you explain to me in detail how to create more sis. rif.?

I know that in theory you explained it above but I am not sure if it is a procedure for 5 axes or 3 axes (I think it is equal).

 

[cimaguy]

perfect, last thing, I'm insistent but this could be useful to many toptron users, could you explain to me in detail how to create more sis. rif.?

I know that in theory you explained it above but I am not sure if it is a procedure for 5 axes or 3 axes (I think it is equal).

..ok.
Just a minute I put a little video

 

[julian79]

Maybe I'll be a little late. cmq you can make all the reference systems that you want important that the main one is the one of the origins in the car ... I better explain you to leave and do a new tp with the ucs model that will be the origin in machine x y and z.. then you select the part and after you create the rough and then you can do all the p.u. with the origins that create them all the time according to the direction of processing. when post-processes will be the post that will tell the machine that according to the main origin turns the head/table of tot degrees x do the processing.... I don't know if I managed to explain to me so but you can do all the origins you want ... hello

 

[Godzuky]

Good morning to all, I have a question for alberto26, use a gpp1 or gpp2?

Bye!