nx,solidworks,solidedge,inventor

[New Rider]

Good morning to all,

My acquaintance currently works with nx7. now never as you already know this version is obsolete.
said this was thought to upgrade to more up-to-date versions. He asked me for an opinion because I come from solidworks myself.
what would it be worth doing?
abandon nx for other medium-range cads (type solidworks,solidedge with all pros and cons).
update to the latest version of nx?
industrial machinery sector.

Thank you.

 

[Dottor_Scott]

the answer is not easy as it depends on an enormity of factors,
the information you give is quite generic, so I can't help but
Say 'depend'.
I know very well sw and benign nx, I can tell you that they are not comparable software
because they turn to different areas. .

Meanwhile the cost, for sw we are around 8k instead for nx triple
with these figures you take the complete solidworks with a lot of tools
that I consider indispensable, as for example, a complete library of materials,
a large component library, surfaces, carpentry/making module
welded in three clicks for real. learning time (for new employees)
Very fast. there is also a mini-module to make fem simplified

with triple give you nx with basic packages, you can't even make layouts,
you can't use advanced set functions, there are no materials (or better, very few), there are no blocks.
There's no routing (if you want, 20k more) and...you want to make a carpentry?
Well, you extrude profile by profile. like welds, if you want to see them in drafting, not
You just need to shape them. long learning time, very long

you need to design a turbine with tens of thousands of components, designed by 500
Engineers around the world? use nx with teamcenter

in other cases, I recommend you to turn on sw, unless your archive to be converted
not huge

 

[Gabriele SWX]

I agree with Dr._scott.
you could use nx to work on old archives and solidworks or solidedge for new projects.
the pains could come out when you have to realize new projects that maybe resemble something already done. using a new cad you have to take back all parts from 0 (please remember to import them and work on them), stretching the working time.
instead when in some new project you have to use components already shaped with the old cad, you can always import them using the function that solidworks has to use in the assemblies the native models of other cads and that they update if you update the model (I don't know if also other cad apart creo have this function).
important is also the complexity of the works you need to realize, solidworks is not exactly the most indicated cad when you have to realize overall with thousands of components.
However the interoperability between cad is still a mirage!
Hi.

 

[New Rider]

the answer is not easy as it depends on an enormity of factors,
the information you give is quite generic, so I can't help but
Say 'depend'.
I know very well sw and benign nx, I can tell you that they are not comparable software
because they turn to different areas. .

Meanwhile the cost, for sw we are around 8k instead for nx triple
with these figures you take the complete solidworks with a lot of tools
that I consider indispensable, as for example, a complete library of materials,
a large component library, surfaces, carpentry/making module
welded in three clicks for real. learning time (for new employees)
Very fast. there is also a mini-module to make fem simplified

with triple give you nx with basic packages, you can't even make layouts,
you can't use advanced set functions, there are no materials (or better, very few), there are no blocks.
There's no routing (if you want, 20k more) and...you want to make a carpentry?
Well, you extrude profile by profile. like welds, if you want to see them in drafting, not
You just need to shape them. long learning time, very long

you need to design a turbine with tens of thousands of components, designed by 500
Engineers around the world? use nx with teamcenter

in other cases, I recommend you to turn on sw, unless your archive to be converted
not huge

Hello, thank you for the answer.
my information was scarce because I didn't know the minimum nx I had no hints on which to start. That said, reading your answer I realized that nx is at a higher level than the cads for normal municipalities. Does it really cost so much? I also use swx and know how it works. I wanted to see if nx was indicatively equal. but from what you said no.
the speech of the archiving no longer worries me so much because you can always recover (with all the problems of the case)
my acquaintance was perplexed on file communication. he said that updating nx to the last version recovered everything. what with swx could not do (unless you redesign or amounts step etc)
However, also updating to the current version of the ''high' price you have a number of factors that you cannot underestimate (modules,welding,carentery,lamiere etc).
Is there any compatibility between nx and solidedge?I believe not...

 

[ceschi1959]

the 'base' version of nx does not cost a kidney, we are around 11k with, base surfaces (vuol say you do everything with a little more effort but do it), sheet metal and a fem wizard for static analysis based on nastran.
the current version is 12 and from version 7 there is a abyss.
I do not doubt all the potential of the other cads illustrated by colleagues.
evaluate carefully.
Hi.

 

[Dade73]

this year, we migrated from nx8 to nx12...... interface, new commands, different gestures, a delirioo_o.
but I assure you to those who own licenses, there are commercial offers for extremely interesting updates from the economic point of view.

 

[Gabriele SWX]

However if the nx update costs like buying a solidworks/solidedge license or even something more I would personally prefer to upgrade nx, I would not create two archives with two different cads and I would thus have a continuity.

 

[New Rider]

the most sensible idea, also reading what he said in baskets1959, would be to update nx to the latest version. However, what I've heard is no longer necessary to update the license but re-purchase it. the fact that I can't understand if nx is the ideal cad for the kind of work he has to do. It doesn't work with surfaces so it would seem like I wasted a cad like that.
another aspect is the knowledge of designer cad nx.... How many do they find? This is also an aspect not to be underestimated. .

 

[Dottor_Scott]

It is not just a speech of surfaces, indeed.
the differences are several, but for my nx experience it is chosen by:
- who works for a supplier who specifically requires nx
- who works in the multi-user field and carries out a mute-user design push
- those who work in advanced areas (but here, 20k euro are not enough)

for the rest, I do not want to contradict baskets that is the greatest connoisseur of nx
of the forum, but with 10k I would like to know what they give you, since our license (21k +4k
a year of maintenance) has practically nothing.. .

 

[ceschi1959]

It is not just a speech of surfaces, indeed.
the differences are several, but for my nx experience it is chosen by:
- who works for a supplier who specifically requires nx
- who works in the multi-user field and carries out a mute-user design push
- those who work in advanced areas (but here, 20k euro are not enough)

for the rest, I do not want to contradict baskets that is the greatest connoisseur of nx
of the forum, but with 10k I would like to know what they give you, since our license (21k +4k
a year of maintenance) has practically nothing.. .

What license do you have from 21k?
you can see it by going to help > about nx > system information, the penultimate line contains bundle in use. that identifies the license (nx1100n, millifond, designer, nx13300n or other)
where I work we have about 40 licenses a little assorted I work quietly with the base that is now no longer a list that cost 7k! sometimes the mach3 nx13300n from 30k but are really sporadic cases.
for example there is the license with nastran that also costs about 30k but does not have the drafting, depends on what you purchased.
Hi.

 

[Dottor_Scott]

40 licenses?! Maybe work in such a big studio, as it must be beautiful,
Congratulations!
we have 12100n, minimum coniderate to work with our customer
at the limit I can paste the list of packages that it is composed of,
or maybe you have 40 licenses, some discount will make you

In any case, I believe that the nx + teamcenter is unreachable,
as complexity of project ceh can be achieved: at certain levels is not a choice
(It is an obligation)
I forgot to say that since I use nx, I don't remember a system crash.

 

[New Rider]

What license do you have from 21k?
you can see it by going to help > about nx > system information, the penultimate line contains bundle in use. that identifies the license (nx1100n, millifond, designer, nx13300n or other)
where I work we have about 40 licenses a little assorted I work quietly with the base that is now no longer a list that cost 7k! sometimes the mach3 nx13300n from 30k but are really sporadic cases.
for example there is the license with nastran that also costs about 30k but does not have the drafting, depends on what you purchased.
Hi.

Damn 40 stations....
Congratulations. . .

 

[ceschi1959]

40 licenses?! Maybe work in such a big studio, as it must be beautiful,
Congratulations!

not a studio is a company

we have 12100n, minimum coniderate to work with our customer

I guess who can be

at the limit I can paste the list of packages that it is composed of,

Yes so I'll take a look

In any case, I believe that the nx + teamcenter is unreachable,
as complexity of project ceh can be achieved: at certain levels is not a choice
(It is an obligation)
I forgot to say that since I use nx, I don't remember a system crash.

 

[NX_Expert]

I confirm what is said by baskets1959: nx has prices aligned with solid edge and solid works but its value is much higher. who uses nx has no crash problems, has no problem with the big assemblies and there are great news for those who work in the industrial machinery industry.
Have you seen what nx can do with the mechatronic concept designer application?

 

[TAURUS77]

Bye to all,
for curiosity but a single license full of nx how much does it cost? I don't want to shoot a random figure... but from what I read we're around €50k.

 

[NX_Expert]

hi taurus77, that I know no one has full licenses as it would make no sense. nx is a design platform and can have different verticalizations: simple mechanics, molds , cam, mechatronic concept designer, advanced surfaces, additive manufacturing, robotics etc...
all nx users have a common mechanical design base,(2d, 3d, assemblies, base surfaces, sheet) and then add the vertical modules I mentioned before.
for every info write me as well.

 

[Pizza3d]

I agree with nx_expert, it doesn't make much sense to talk about a full license of nx there are different configurations and is chosen the one that best aligns with the type of product you design.
I personally do not see many advantages in software change, you would lose a historical archive that in a company I think very important, with all the difficulties in starting from scratch.
if they are obliged to change nx software and if they have the possibility to open each other's models and are managed as if they were links between files.