orientameno vista

[mali_fx]

Hello I would have a question that is probably a banalita!
how do I, in catia v5 r19, to orientate a view regarding a plan or a edge, or any other reference?
I'll explain, in the proe there was a function that allowed you to align the view as you wanted through the references you wanted, for example:
perpendicular surface to the screen and parallel edge to the lower/high side of the screen in 2 clicks!
in catia there's ''normal view'' that gives you the perpendicularity' of the selection compared to the screen but it's not enough for a correct orientation, I would also like to get the parallel between a edge/floor and the low/high side of the screen frame!

In short, a single mess I'm talking about, I hope you can understand why I read it again I'm struggling to understand:biggrin:

 

[mcbramby]

actually it is not very clear ... but that "master" you have to put
at the table???? :biggrin::biggrin:
cmq creates a plan in the part with the inclination you need
and use it to make the table......
If you put an image of what you need...
Maybe we can reason...

 

[mali_fx]

I mean in the modeling phase not in the tables! ! !
Do you ever create a cat-part view?
...type to perpendicular to the screen a plane and parallel the edge?
I would not be able to shape without these small things."
to make you understand, in the caty there is an option that is called ''normal view''' (under view-modification), try to click on it then click on a plan and you will see that the plan perpendicular to the chermo!
So far I'm fine, the problem is that I would also like to direct a parallel edge to the lower/or high side of the schrmo!
should be a 2-click cable

 

[mcbramby]

I mean in the modeling phase not in the tables! ! !
Do you ever create a cat-part view?
...type to perpendicular to the screen a plane and parallel the edge?
I would not be able to shape without these small things."
to make you understand, in the caty there is an option that is called ''normal view''' (under view-modification), try to click on it then click on a plan and you will see that the plan perpendicular to the chermo!
So far I'm fine, the problem is that I would also like to direct a parallel edge to the lower/or high side of the schrmo!
should be a 2-click cable

Sorry I didn't understand............ I thought you had problems with the table........
I am now at home and I have no cat in front of the face but I usually use "normal view" and then if I just want to turn it differently to see it + or - right I help with the tripod by turning the piece on the floor I have on the screen :smile: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But if you want precise points on the screen I have never tried (to tell the truth I don't need and I have never served, for what I model obviously) , maybe Monday I try to see in the office if I find something that can do what you say.
because from what I understand you would like to put a normal plan or face on the screen, with the "normal view" button, but then clicking on a edge or 2 points put vertical or horizontal the edge or the 2 points you selected...... Right? ?

 

[peloritano]

I mean in the modeling phase not in the tables! ! !
Do you ever create a cat-part view?
...type to perpendicular to the screen a plane and parallel the edge?
I would not be able to shape without these small things."
to make you understand, in the caty there is an option that is called ''normal view''' (under view-modification), try to click on it then click on a plan and you will see that the plan perpendicular to the chermo!
So far I'm fine, the problem is that I would also like to direct a parallel edge to the lower/or high side of the schrmo!
should be a 2-click cable

I have the same problem.... never managed to solve it. . you could create views called but even those have never been able to create them as you should

 

[mali_fx]

the view ok but that consequently!
was too comfortable in pro and that option!
cmq in part I would have solved but it is a really very Moroccan procedure!
measure the angle between the edge/floor you need compared to the absolute system, copy the result then right click on the manipulator, edit and paste the degrees in the increase of rotation and wheel. Once in position create the view.
Maybe studying us sopa a macro becomes easier the play

 

[peloritano]

the view ok but that consequently!
was too comfortable in pro and that option!
cmq in part I would have solved but it is a really very Moroccan procedure!
measure the angle between the edge/floor you need compared to the absolute system, copy the result then right click on the manipulator, edit and paste the degrees in the increase of rotation and wheel. Once in position create the view.
Maybe studying us sopa a macro becomes easier the play

It's too complicated. adjust the orientation well by adjusting the h and v axes and creating and saving a called view. . .
It comes out of the sketch without having to do anything but the view so created will always be available. . .
I am also convinced that there will be some operation that will allow to orientate the piece according to our needs..... at the bottom when you make the table just select two perpendicular axes to automatically orientate the view

 

[mali_fx]

Sorry what do you mean to fix h and v axes?

 

[mali_fx]

Sorry I didn't understand............ I thought you had problems with the table........
I am now at home and I have no cat in front of the face but I usually use "normal view" and then if I just want to turn it differently to see it + or - right I help with the tripod by turning the piece on the floor I have on the screen :smile: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But if you want precise points on the screen I have never tried (to tell the truth I don't need and I have never served, for what I model obviously) , maybe Monday I try to see in the office if I find something that can do what you say.
because from what I understand you would like to put a normal plan or face on the screen, with the "normal view" button, but then clicking on a edge or 2 points put vertical or horizontal the edge or the 2 points you selected...... Right? ?

In fact, catia is another planet than pro and, on the one hand, it would also be unfair to pretend that they have everything accurate but obviously when you get used to it with a method it is difficult to abandon it.
Of course we can do without saying that it is indispensable.
I found it very comfortable as I found it convenient to export a 3d compared to a coordinate system (not absolute), which is not there!

 

[peloritano]

If you use the sketch option placed there appears a screen where you can choose the origin of your reference system and the orientation of the axes...
I explain better.... when entering the cat sketch operation automatically generates a system of axes h (think is horizontal) and v (vertical) ... in the sketch operation positioned you can choose origin and orientation

 

[mali_fx]

I agree, this solution is definitely better than that proposed by me at first.
I'll stick around.
Thank you.

 

[mcbramby]

In fact, catia is another planet than pro and, on the one hand, it would also be unfair to pretend that they have everything accurate but obviously when you get used to it with a method it is difficult to abandon it.
Of course we can do without saying that it is indispensable.
I found it very comfortable as I found it convenient to export a 3d compared to a coordinate system (not absolute), which is not there!

made 2 tests . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
if you want to align one side to the screen (you have to have at least
a right side) after "front view" clikka on the trepod below there is the corner
that with 2 clicks 1 horizontal side or vert the other on the line you want
put horizontal or vert, you will see that it calculates the angle automatically , then click on the right rotation of the corner and on the screen you will orientate the view.
If instead the problem is to create a sketch that does not have the guidelines
absolute of the piece and the "zero" where you want.... then use "scratch placed" that gives you the opportunity to orientate the sketch as you want........ Obviously you have this possibility on an existing sketch that you want to move or rotate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :wink:

 

[mali_fx]

Hello mcbramby,
do you mean the manipulator?
As far as the right side is concerned I have it but clearly it is to be positioned, the goal is that.
to do what you say, if I understand correctly, I must first measure the angle between absolute axis and the famous straight edge that I want to put right and then rotate tot.gradi reevati, is it so or are you saying that I can do without measuring and calculating ''catia'' the corner? ? ?
If I have to measure, the right solution seems to me that sketch placed.
What do you think?

 

[mcbramby]

Hello mcbramby,
do you mean the manipulator?
As far as the right side is concerned I have it but clearly it is to be positioned, the goal is that.
to do what you say, if I understand correctly, I must first measure the angle between absolute axis and the famous straight edge that I want to put right and then rotate tot.gradi reevati, is it so or are you saying that I can do without measuring and calculating ''catia'' the corner? ? ?
If I have to measure, the right solution seems to me that sketch placed.
What do you think?

si the trepod is the manipulator ................ .
practically straighten your face with "normal view" and then by mouse taking the circular part you see of the manipulator, you can turn the piece manually until you put it as you want............... :wink:
if you want to put the side let's call it oblique that you want right... right
(I hope to explain but it was + easy to see it ) then double-click on the manipulator, you will see that in the lower right there is a corner box , click on corner and he asks you 2 segments and calculates him the angle between the 2 lines, of course one of the 2 is horizontal. or vertical, then clicking on side or on one side or on the other you will rotate the piece automatically of the calculated angle and put the right side...

Of course I'm talking about displaying a face that I want to turn....... but always and only as visualization....... .

 

[peloritano]

I did some evidence, but it's not right... where do I take my vertical or horizontal axis? ?
I practically selected my surface and with the normal view command I put it in normal position on the screen.... but now if I want to align the whole piece I don't have the vertical or horizontal axis with which to measure the angle... the solution of the sketch positioned still seems good... But there's no one who knows how to make it simple as it exists in pro-e?? ? ? ?

 

[mali_fx]

made 2 tests and I understood the operation.
I think this solution is great.
Thanks for the patience!

hi and good work

 

[mali_fx]

You are right, too, if your edge has a reference to the absolute axis (x or y) this solution is excellent, if instead the part is in the space for its facts you must first pass through the sketch positioned.
impossible claims that 2 software is identical cmq even if that option was really comfortable!

 

[mcbramby]

I did some evidence, but it's not right... where do I take my vertical or horizontal axis? ?
I practically selected my surface and with the normal view command I put it in normal position on the screen.... but now if I want to align the whole piece I don't have the vertical or horizontal axis with which to measure the angle... the solution of the sketch positioned still seems good... But there's no one who knows how to make it simple as it exists in pro-e?? ? ? ?

as I see it is difficult, not having a horizontal line or vert, but the manipulator is inclined as the sight .... in these cases try to use the
default views ... frontal, side etc... you must use the "dado" blue
with isometric view and maybe your view is already.......:wink:

 

[peloritano]

I know... This piece is built parallel to the axes and has only a few inclined planes...so if I use the default views maybe I can orientate it comfortably.... but yesterday to do some tests I had built a parallelepiped with the edges oriented in a different way from the axles.... In that case you must pass from the sketch placed. ....
but the concept is another.... with pro-e is the key that allows you to immediately orientate a normal surface to the floor and with the aligned edges... It's strange that catia doesn't give that chance that I assure you it's very useful in the design stage.

 

[mcbramby]

I know... This piece is built parallel to the axes and has only a few inclined planes...so if I use the default views maybe I can orientate it comfortably.... but yesterday to do some tests I had built a parallelepiped with the edges oriented in a different way from the axles.... In that case you must pass from the sketch placed. ....
but the concept is another.... with pro-e is the key that allows you to immediately orientate a normal surface to the floor and with the aligned edges... It's strange that catia doesn't give that chance that I assure you it's very useful in the design stage.

the sketch placed serves to place a sketch compared to points or lines not to display a face .............. .
But in your case try to rotate manually, after putting the face parallel to the screen, with the manipulator ..... by turning the circular part of the manipulator you see after putting the view at the screen paralles, always that the problem is only a question of visualization maybe to be able to see the piece in a particular way ......
It may be enough for you to do this ..... ... .