parameters in combination

[supertramp]

Hello everyone!
I have a problem for you. I have my own mold set with matrix and punch bound to the particular. If I change the latter, I also update the geometries of the punch and matrix.
Now I get a commission for a mold identical to multiple figures for another customer. So I make a copy of the mold, I multiply the figures, the matrices and the punches and I go on.
At this point I get the request for a modification to be made on the particular for both molds. Here comes the problem, I would like to change one of the two details since they are identical and go to replace it in the axieme but if I lose all the constraints and my matrices and puppets do not update. is there no way to replace a component without losing the constraints created in other components?
thanks in advance

 

[axa]

Hello everyone!
I have a problem for you. I have my own mold set with matrix and punch bound to the particular. If I change the latter, I also update the geometries of the punch and matrix.
Now I get a commission for a mold identical to multiple figures for another customer. So I make a copy of the mold, I multiply the figures, the matrices and the punches and I go on.
At this point I get the request for a modification to be made on the particular for both molds. Here comes the problem, I would like to change one of the two details since they are identical and go to replace it in the axieme but if I lose all the constraints and my matrices and puppets do not update. is there no way to replace a component without losing the constraints created in other components?
thanks in advance

I didn't understand very well, do you mean you lost the bonds or the wave links?
However, you should understand a little better as works, nx gives you all the tools to replace the features, so maybe it's just a matter of properly structuring the work.

 

[supertramp]

I didn't understand very well, do you mean you lost the bonds or the wave links?
However, you should understand a little better as works, nx gives you all the tools to replace the features, so maybe it's just a matter of properly structuring the work.

I mean the wave geometry links. in practice I create the separation between punch and matrix within the file that contains the final detail. then I create the matrix file and the punzone file and link the two solids created previously and proseguo with the mold. the problem arises if I go to replace the initial file with an updated one because they stop all links. Maybe there's another way to set the job but I don't think of it.
(until some time ago I didn't have the problem because I was shooting everything directly because changes rarely happened on the initial object).
I hope I've been clearer:

 

[axa]

I mean the wave geometry links. in practice I create the separation between punch and matrix within the file that contains the final detail. then I create the matrix file and the punzone file and link the two solids created previously and proseguo with the mold. the problem arises if I go to replace the initial file with an updated one because they stop all links. Maybe there's another way to set the job but I don't think of it.
(until some time ago I didn't have the problem because I was shooting everything directly because changes rarely happened on the initial object).
I hope I've been clearer:

you could recreate a structure similar to what makes Moldovawizard instead of creating divisions directly inside the file of the particular (imported or not that it is) and that is:

1) create an axieme and load the "pezzo.prt" to be printed as a component
2) create a component that you call for example "pezzo_mold.prt", here you link the solid from "pezzo.prt" here you make the modifications type added reforms etc. etc. to make the piece printable.
3) create a component (always inside the main ax) that you call "pezzo_ritirato.prt", inside link the solid of the file "pezzo_mold.prt" or the piece made printable and give it the withdrawal
4) create a component "pezzo_divisioni.prt", inside link the solid from the file "pezzo_ritirato.prt", inside here you go to create the division surfaces and the out figure
5) create the matrix and punch components within which you link the appropriate surfaces.
etc. etc. etc.

It's longer to write that doing it, obviously with mw you would have everything in automatic and the possibility to create divisions in a "guided" way, as well as a whole series of very useful tools.

you could create a "base" structure and clone it from time to time (which makes mw).
if you change the starting component to point 1, it is much easier to manage the changes in a associative way.

Bye.

 

[supertramp]

thanks axa is all clear except one thing. if I have to replace the piece at point 1 there is a way to make sure that all the links created downstream are not interrupted?
by replacing I mean replacing the file. separation surfaces remain unchanged but vary other geometries on the piece. (I know it doesn't happen often but it happened to me and I don't want to waste time changing my original to not miss the links downstream, especially if I have the particular already ready reinviated by the customer).

 

[beppino]

thanks axa is all clear except one thing. if I have to replace the piece at point 1 there is a way to make sure that all the links created downstream are not interrupted?
by replacing I mean replacing the file. separation surfaces remain unchanged but vary other geometries on the piece. (I know it doesn't happen often but it happened to me and I don't want to waste time changing my original to not miss the links downstream, especially if I have the particular already ready reinviated by the customer).

Maybe I miss something... .
but do you not want to load the "new piece" in the main axieme and link in your mold only the modified parts?

if you remove the original model (imported), and put another (always imported) links you lose all.

 

[axa]

thanks axa is all clear except one thing. if I have to replace the piece at point 1 there is a way to make sure that all the links created downstream are not interrupted?
by replacing I mean replacing the file. separation surfaces remain unchanged but vary other geometries on the piece. (I know it doesn't happen often but it happened to me and I don't want to waste time changing my original to not miss the links downstream, especially if I have the particular already ready reinviated by the customer).

clearly you can't expect everything to remain "magically" in place if the piece has changes, the worse it is obviously.
to minimize the cases you can use the "replacement assistant" that allows you to automatically recognize the geometries.

I try to explain a little better:

1) replace the original piece in the axieme and as a result stop the link on the "mold" component.
2) edit the wave link on the Moldovan component, select the new solid and use "replacement assistant" (you find it under "mapping" when you edit the link) which allows you to automatically recognize the unvaried geometries and allows you to recapture the rest by hand.
3) come on, and wait until you see what you have to put in hand

clearly better to play with interpart delays.

Bye.

 

[The_Matrix]

clearly you can't expect everything to remain "magically" in place if the piece has changes, the worse it is obviously.
to minimize the cases you can use the "replacement assistant" that allows you to automatically recognize the geometries.

I try to explain a little better:

1) replace the original piece in the axieme and as a result stop the link on the "mold" component.
2) edit the wave link on the Moldovan component, select the new solid and use "Assistant relocation" (you find it under "mapping" when you edit the link) that allows you to automatically recognize the unchanged geometries and allows you to recapture the rest by hand.
3) come on, and wait until you see what you have to put in hand

clearly better to play with interpart delays.

Bye.

r.a. Maybe "geometric."
The mistake is still up.
it is not necessary to "copy" the mold (I imagine the supertramp friend took all the folder and copied), but rather "clonarlo", going to duplicate only the components actually modified.
others manage with "use existing".

 

[supertramp]

Thank you all! as always, very interesting ideas to improve work with tools for me quite new.

 

[IPdesign]

Hello supertramp
if I have well understood you have a mold to and you want to create a mold b that has all the associated geometry links .

as it rightly suggested matrix the correct way is to make a cloning.
At that point you have a perfectly identical b mold and mold.

in the mold b you make the replacement of the reference geometry, it can happen that sometimes when replacing the link you lose, but you just enter the file of the pre-retire piece and reconnect it .

the tour (very schematized) of the links is as follows:
Imported file > link in file model -> link in file pickup -> link in file closures

Later closures could also need maintenance if the two pieces are not too similar and you also added that.

Once you've made your accommodations, you've come to the point that you just need to update your masses on the table and you're all right (remembered to clone even those?? ? )

 

[ciciu]

You remembered you cloning those, too? ?

In fact, that of the harvests at the table is a problem which should not be dealt with at the start :
In fact, a whole mould with a total of , plus a few sets of details performed all in master model, are more father parts with sometimes loaded the same sub-parts.

I have always chlorinated table for table, and then finally cloning the part with total 2d, overwriting the various 3d components cloned with previous operations.
If I do not proceed in this way, when I load the top part of the 3d axieme all other daughters of the cloned tables not previously, they are not valid versions of the loaded axieme .

Is that correct?

 

[supertramp]

thanks also to you ip and ciciu... Now we miss the clone of myself and then we increase productivity

 

[IPdesign]

well calculates that for a productive speech there are a thousand options to consider,
Anyway you are on the road