part positioning with connection

[alexmsk789]

Good morning to all
My problem is this I have a part that they place with the constraints within a set of , at this point I would like this part to be inserted also in a set b keeping the same position that it has in the together . So if for some reason I have to move the part in the together I would like that of the b set to move accordingly.

 

[meccanicamg]

the gift of reading in thought is not part of the cad.
or you put equations that fish from the same source or no one dreams of interdependence between two disjoining sets.

 

[falonef]

in the catpart you must define and place a axle system so that you can then insert your catpart into the two assemblies through the position of the axle system itself.

Maybe use the darts to define the insertion point in space

 

[alexmsk789]

thanks to all for the answers, the position between two assemblies usually do it with the snap via absolute axle system as falonef says, I wanted to know if you could do it automatically

 

[alexmsk789]

the gift of reading in thought is not part of the cad.
or you put equations that fish from the same source or no one dreams of interdependence between two disjoining sets.

I think it is a very strange question, since I have the need to bring parts back to the same position, I just wanted to see if it could be done automatically. other times I thought there were things that he could not do and instead there was a very simple way ....

 

[gianni55]

I want to be honest in saying that I don't understand what you want to get and if you put a concrete example, maybe it's easier to help you, so if I misunderstood my banal answers. . .

I have a part that posiziono with the constraints within a set of , at this point I would like this part to be inserted also in a set b keeping the same position that it has in the together with . so if for some reason I have to move the part in the together I would like that of the b set to move accordingly.

If you refer to the assemblies, I simply put the assembling to as subaxis of b, of course the constraints are referred to a part that must be present (which can also be an axis system type iveco)

I need to return parts on multiple assemblies with the same positioning

if you refer to parts that you want to load in the same position on different products (sometimes happens for a group of screws or thorns for standard bases) I simply copy and take off from the product of course in this way you get the immediate position without tinkering with the snap but not the constraints then I use the anchoretta, or the lock together and then bond only a screw to the new base and all the rest goes behind.. .

 

[alexmsk789]

I want to be honest in saying that I don't understand what you want to get and if you put a concrete example, maybe it's easier to help you, so if I misunderstood my banal answers. . .



If you refer to the assemblies, I simply put the assembling to as subaxis of b, of course the constraints are referred to a part that must be present (which can also be an axis system type iveco)



if you refer to parts that you want to load in the same position on different products (sometimes happens for a group of screws or thorns for standard bases) I simply copy and take off from the product of course in this way you get the immediate position without tinkering with the snap but not the constraints then I use the anchoretta, or the lock together and then bond only a screw to the new base and all the rest goes behind.. .

an example can be just vines, I have a complete set with platelets and vines, and I have to bring only the vines to another together. this because the customer wants the screws and normalized are on a product apart. My problem is that if for some reason I have to move the screws into the first set, I have to put the screws on the second together.

 

[gianni55]

if the project is simple, the fact of grouping the normalized is understandable, it is less if there are many components that are reused and for the purpose grouped in a sub assembly, cmq hope you are not planning the cyclotron of the cern...

I believe instead that the customer wants to receive a project where it is simple to hide all normalized, or to gather them in the distinct base.

Now I tell you what I would do, even if it seems like cmq of complicated management, then you see.

1) design my complete subgroups of normalized, making sure they are complete and functional, if I use a matrix, I use the settings of pdf 01, i.e. constraints generated, size and paste the original component, insert into a flexible component

2) the "collections" obtained in addition to hiding them in the product, so that they are not displayed in the separate base (pdf 2)

3) when I finish the project, I create the product for screws and cups inside the screws making sure that the sub assembly constraints are copied, but in the assembly father, to do this I must go in the options and select paste the components always with the bonds together (pdf 03)

4) the product of the screws, normalized etc. I must make it flexible so that it is updated

5) I give you an example, where if by e.g. the matrix of the plate, is modified, move the screws of the sub assembly and also the copies that are in the overall assembly father

In this way you should get complete and ready-to-use sub assemblies on your own or in other projects.

I personally would try to "leave" a sub assembly when I am sure I do not change it anymore and if I change it name and revision.

 

[falonef]

There's something that doesn't come back:
1) Modify the largest plate matrix > from 12 to 9 holes
2) I am living everything
3) in the "product for flexible screws" the superfluous screws are always present

 

[gianni55]

There's something that doesn't come back:
1) Modify the largest plate matrix > from 12 to 9 holes
2) I am living everything
3) in the "product for flexible screws" the superfluous screws are always present

falonef: the example I prepared it according to the expectations of alexmsk789, who asked "if I have to move the screws", I did not foresee more radical changes.. .

for which you are right, but being the product for flexible screws fruit of a copy and paste, it can not be otherwise, remove (or add) holes, obliges to rerun the operation "special glue".

As soon as I have time I do some other evidence, but I think it takes a macro

If anyone has any ideas...

Hi.

 

[alexmsk789]

Thanks gianni55 seems to me to have understood the solution and it seems good, I wonder that I am at work if I have free time I try to test it.
it would also be interesting to understand how other designers manage the screws.

 

[falonef]

we put them in the main catproduct.
at the limit we gather them in an auxiliary sub-assembly (icon without white sheet) to have a better structure in the logical tree.

in each catproduct standars must be inserted independently by other catproducts.

Standard elements are physically saved in a folder with optione "read-only"

 

[gianni55]

in the case of a project with a few parts I do exactly as falonef explained, in the case of a more complex project, I divide it into groups (according to customer specifications or assembly needs).

each group is a complete set of screws that serve to assemble the components and the group itself with the other groups in the assemblies (using the principle that each group arrives complete ready for assembly)

it rarely happens that in the group there are other sub assemblies, but in case there were standards with screws and thorns that arrive beautiful ready (subgroup with own function autonomous and not specific of the project), I insert them as a complete number in the distinct base, and I attach its 2d with its distinct base

the standards at the origin are in a read-only folder and are recognizable by a prefix, but in the end they are still stored in the group folder

the normalized type screws/spines are immediately stored in the folder each single group