pdm: ...conoscete questi...??

[compasso]

Hey, guys.
in the forum are often heard names of software vendors or only applications such as cdmisigraf and eit. these retailers also market their own verticalizations on the pdm. do you have the opportunity to post comments or just impressions about their work?
as always thank you.

:biggrin: good weekend

 

[Superguido]

a passionate advice: standard model manager!! ! !
All multinationals use it, there will be a reason!
resellers create a pdm that does the same thing as standard model managers to arm customers and consequently sell licenses to suppliers as any external technical studies, but it is not absolutely necessary because you can customize standard mm by doing it exactly the same.

 

[Kaji]

I used for about one year work manager, if not erro is so called the official pdm of the cocreate and then in 2006 I passed to jclient of the cdm, now it is called pe3, and it was really like to pass from night to day.
you can ask yourself that all the things you do with jclient you could do even with wm and we were not able and no one taught them, the fact that you have time to wm save in the database was a break, if I don't remember bad in a set you lost time in the encoding of every single piece (at the most you give them a progressive code indeed default px), while in pe3 you do only of the assieme and the pieces
inside a part, ie tied to a code, with some trick you can put more solid 3d, plus 2d boards and also generic files like pdf, avi, etc.
for example you have a commercial component, for example a ralla, attach to the pdf part of the catalog and tac you see it immediately.
not to mention the search queries, I sincerely with wm I remember very few possibilities, in pe3 there are also too much.
in the management of the base distinte you can safely make paste copy from another together having different code, update from the 3d and he automatically highlights the new pieces and those that are no longer there.
Moreover with customizations you can speed much coding, for example in my specific case if in the tree structure except the particular
"ap26t22r00_rotore_acqua_di_injection" pe3 automatically puts me in the description "water injection rotor" ignoring all the characters before the first underscore and then replacing the following underscores with the spaces, but you can also do more personalization regarding the actual codes but we wanted to avoid.
the packages instead are present in the management of the "revisions" every part, that is every single code corresponding to an element, therefore I do not speak neither of 3d nor of 2d, has one and only distinct, therefore it is necessary to pay much attention for any exchanges etc of assemblies with more revisions, especially if the exchanges are managed automatically from offices other than the technical one. there are other future types of pdms that instead manage a distinct for each revision.

As for the support closely tied to the 3d, I am much less enthusiastic, for example the macro for welds weighs too much the file, screws and threaded holes are a little better but I think you find something analogous and free online, especially if you know the German, the bearings are to be avoided, use quietly those of powerparts or similar, it is nice the macro of the seeger because it makes you that automatically the hollow circle. useful is also the macro of the upn type profiles etc even if there are those of common use, but you have to be careful in managing them copy them etc. because for him once chosen the upn with a given length and material becomes a library object as if it were a screw, so every time to be more free I turn it into normal part.
Finally I would be curious to try the macro of the reticolar structures, useful when you make tralicci etc. but personally I think that in that case it is difficult to make a well-functioning macro.
in a few words the pdm seems indispensable to me for a medium-sized company while for macros etc. maybe it is an expense that can be avoided.

 

[drnaik]

a passionate advice: standard model manager!! ! !
All multinationals use it, there will be a reason!
resellers create a pdm that does the same thing as standard model managers to arm customers and consequently sell licenses to suppliers as any external technical studies, but it is not absolutely necessary because you can customize standard mm by doing it exactly the same.

I doubt it is that retailers create proprietary and alternative pdms to model managers, but if anything they develop verticalizations or improvements on mm.
I know mm well and the verticalizations of the various dealers and I assure you that they don't exactly do the same things. mm is good as a cad manager, it is a fantastic product and probably covers all the needs of a technical study or a company of a few people , but the tools of the various dealers extend much the potential of the product.

 

[Er Presidente]

attention to the difference between wm (work manager) and mm (model manager).
The first is a very powerful hp pdm, which does everything, but without customization is an empty box.
model manager is faster and more modern, but it doesn't have all the potential of a real pdm.

 

[controllofiamma]

Bye-bye.
ever heard of dbcent?
What do you think?

 

[Superguido]

Bye-bye.
ever heard of dbcent?
What do you think?

Hello, never seen, but does it work with modeling? But not in theory, are there people using modeling with this pdm?

 

[compasso]

thanks guys, especially for the extended and detailed report of kaji; I realized that both rivetors verticalize a standard base for the pdm, while for the libraries each dealer develops best what their customers expect. for us customization sheet molders at the level of libraries I have not yet seen.... who knows a tomorrow....
Meanwhile thank you, if in the future someone else would like to post comments on the topic....
Hi.

 

[Superguido]

thanks guys, especially for the extended and detailed report of kaji; I realized that both rivetors verticalize a standard base for the pdm, while for the libraries each dealer develops best what their customers expect. for us customization sheet molders at the level of libraries I have not yet seen.... who knows a tomorrow....
Meanwhile thank you, if in the future someone else would like to post comments on the topic....
Hi.

hi, the program for you moldists exists for a year to this part, I sent you 1 pm:finger:

 

[compasso]

hi superguido,
I didn't find any applications for sheet metal parts. I saw the usual tools that bend the usual tin can. I work with naked and pure modeling, but I feel good.
Thank you.

 

[emilianonontradisce]

Hello everyone

use mm from cira 2 years and I recommend you to consider well the actual need to use a pdm.

If you can help it, it's always better!