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philosophy falls per cavity

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philosophy of approach to design with catiaentered by chance, with the help of ferretium, in the problematic uuids, of numbering, naming and saving data (until now I have used only new, open and saved by name) because of malfunctions and strange behaviors of part, product their copies and their modifications, I realized I have discovered the vase of pandora.
After doing a search on the web I found many posts of forum tutorials and information in some contradictory cases.
I think it is useful then to try to spread a tutorial especially for students but also for less experienced users, to make clear the mechanism used by catia and above all to define the correct behavior to use to create, copy, replace, modify and save files especially when working with a large model or with a project containing similar multiple models, which ie differ only for some part or product.
often the goodness of a project is determined during the first steps since defining a valid structure, numbering and naming of smart files for a good management methodology, there will be big problems .
in all the books, tutorials, online courses and documentation, even the one within the catia, however exhaustive about the use of the single command or function, I have never found any hints about how everything interacts, as caia reasons and consequently acts. lacks the teaching of the approach strategy to design with catia. there is also no mention of “special” commands.
it is as if at school they taught to change to engine off or to steer to car stop.
when you go on the street music changes and are pains.
the wonder is that all the documents of a model are connected and interdependent, which allows to change an object and automatically change other n, replace and not lose links, copy and import objects from other projects without having to start again, use commercial models of existing components and much more. all though if you left with the right foot and the paved street is the right one. Otherwise you will find yourself unable to use all the potentialities of caia.
the steps of the long scale of mechanical design (the only one I take care of), before “drawing lines” and “extruding solids”, begin from afar.
it would be great if some gurus took the briga to write a manual of “philosophy cad per catia” by comparing examples and links to the posts of the various forums and tutorials found on the web.
this could be the prologue to the magnificent manual of the prof of the noble www.cad-3d.net/ (e.g. simple and complete) that would be so integrated by what is missing and the experience of those who work on the field. I've been writing a manual for a long time. We would very gladly benefit everyone, as we already benefit from his availability! ! !

you could create a... “cateapedia” with cascading topics, on which everyone could intervene, edit, add.
I will try to throw rock in the pond and...... if they are roses will bloom! ! !

the sketch that I attach here is in word format and can therefore be downloaded, modified and reposted.
in bold I have highlighted the doubts, questions, things to clarify.
I have tried to list certain data, things understood and those not understood so that experts can correct, integrate, modify and make the document clear and usable for all.
arguments may be added at will and sorted according to a logic that I have not yet clear.
if the thing obtains consent you should also think of a better method of word document to edit and repost (type wikipedia) before increasing its size.
wishes and good work marco
 

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Hi.
as administrator of the forum I wanted to give my full support for such an initiative.
I can configure on cad3d.it a "wiki" management system alongside that used by wikipedia (www.mediawiki.org) and give administrator passwords to one of you.
let me know by private message.
years ago
 
Dear Mark,

your idea is great and I immediately downloaded the catiapedia file that you attached so read it calmly and try to insert what you suggest in the next edition (the fifth) of my manual that should see the light in the coming weeks.

In fact many are cat users who write to me complaining of a lack of depth of vision in these topics but I, according to the vastness of catia software, do not know well what it can serve more and try to deal with more and more topics so as to give at least a vision of other environments (ten!) contained in the ocean of caia. to this "enlargement" I try to flank a remake of the parts of the manual that I think can be improved. is an intense work that now has produced also a twin manual for the other half of the sky - we say so - that is, pro/engineer, next exit.

even users of that software can thus have a guide to be able to disconnect in the mean of a very powerful and widespread software that has intrigued me. as a divulner in fact my task is not to marry software but to open the doors to users of what is around the world of software. I have been doing it for years for my students and I do it for those who need it for professional reasons

thanks for the wonderful idea that will help me to satisfy (and to facilitate) some of those who are in difficulty with the use of these beautiful and mysterious "objects" of which we make use.

ps1:
Dear Mark again thank you this time for the generous words you wrote about my manual. Thank you!

of the noble

ps2: I take advantage of it to wish good holidays to all our cad3d friends.
 
This manual on pro/e must be a tough and challenging challenge for you.

Since I started using it (4 years ago) I proposed and several people to make a manual on pro/e.
alone I would never have done it, for reasons of time and for the lack of knowledge related to some specific areas (efx and mechanica so much to make two examples).

I put mine in good luck and good holidays to all.
 
thank you dear maxopus,

In fact it was challenging and I have to tell you that the most challenging part of all was the one that concerns the mechanic module that seemed more advanced than that base of catia (although now with the acquisition of abaqus things have changed) and perhaps for this is what came best.

but the result is, in my opinion, very good. Moreover having dedicated the book to my friend of university and colleague fell four years ago in an air accident I had to do a good job.

my greatest satisfaction I received it when I showed the first edition of 300 pages to an emea manager of parametric technology receiving in return an academic license for 6 months of wildfire 5 to make the second edition. to buy (I say!) an educational license of catia I had to send many e-mails and for now, not having received it yet, I am going on with those of my friends and those of my institute.

in any case the judgments I will take for good about my work will be those who will read the book. to them is destined and they must say if I did a good job.

Greetings!

of the noble
 
It seems to me that you are going out of theme, not being this place for pro or for the manual of the prof of the noble.
I have advanced the proposal for a different initiative from the creation of a manual, because of things always managed by one author.
"catiapedia" must be an open document to which everyone can contribute, only in this way can synthesize the skills, knowledge, experiences and cunnings of the whole community.
I have not yet seen interventions on the initiative, on how to implement it and especially on whether to implement it.
Mar
 
It seems to me that you are going out of theme, not being this place for pro or for the manual of the prof of the noble.
I have advanced the proposal for a different initiative from the creation of a manual, because of things always managed by one author.
"catiapedia" must be an open document to which everyone can contribute, only in this way can synthesize the skills, knowledge, experiences and cunnings of the whole community.
I have not yet seen interventions on the initiative, on how to implement it and especially on whether to implement it.
Mar
Let's not be so untransigent.
It is a couple of interventions and nothing more, it was not my intention to bring the thread out of track.
 
Dear Mark,

that was the message of "taking into charge" (say so) of the document that is rather full (18 pages). How to say: "I'm going to read it and I'm going to add a few lines.". but we come to the therefore: the number of questions placed in the document does not allow an answer in a very fast time unless you focus on one or two points per time that if made by multiple contributors can nevertheless lead to a good result even if in a long period. and that is the sense of the whole operation. to a first evaluation of the points read to me it is to suggest that a very rich path of "attributes" to be inserted in the documents (especially of a product document) creates an advantage that can be less important than the time spent to put into operation the function itself. I realize that it would be nice to work best on every aspect of the program but sometimes, according to the number of uncertain aspects in the use of a new command or a command that does not master, it is limited (I should say you are self-limited) to functions on whose good operation you are sure.

cites in fact, dear rotten, often the word "casini" (in the sense of possibility to mess up the project or the file) and this is precisely the aspect in which you should never run because to do a little more work but with confidence it is really preferable if the risk of working with more detail but with greater uncertainties leads to the area "gray" of the system that you do not master. I hope I was clear despite the many words.

to make an example: if the system assigns a universal identifier and I want to alter the universality (so to say) I create (semino) a possible difficulty ("casino") that will come out back and without I can anticipate it or foresee it since it is not always possible to trace a drafting path of the product structure at the beginning of the design when I myself do not know if the customer will alter the initial data of the design. is typical in projects that return to previous data to add others or change them.

ps:
we have already begun and therefore the "if to implement it" seems to me a point exceeded.

Greeting!

of the noble
 
maxopus excuse, I didn't want to be neither intransigent nor rude, but by experience to keep focused on the goal and proceed with order is fundamental, also because a post with 100 answers, of which the majority extraneous to the topic does not stimulate the reading and lose the compass.

Before starting any activity it is to seriously consider the important proposal of the administrator of the forum that has made available to configure a management system similar to wikipedia for such a project.
Is it a feasible project or is it a utopia?
are there "guru" willing to spend time on such an initiative? "if you're a hit!"
What does the forum moderator think?
How can such a work be organized? Who does what?
the questions are so many and there should be answers, statements, or comments from the users of the forum.

express, people, express!! !
Mar
 
I see that my initiative has not experienced interest or participation or discussion.
similar project is developed in us http://www.gtwiki.org/mwiki/index.php?title=main_pagesince I am stubborn, and I hope something can start in this sense, I publish the second edition of catiapedia with additions on publication, parameters and formulas, saves, kinematics

if someone wants to add, develop arguments, correct, will be worthy of praise
Mar
 

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I'm sorry if I'm in the middle of a long time, but I think it's a marcofa initiative that's a great idea for those who like me are migrating to catia v5 for a short time and I find it very interesting the 2nd ed. catiapedia. I therefore invite the moderators and the prof. of the nobleman not to abandon the interest and participation in this type of initiative.
steak
 
Hello stefano,

You did well to warm up the continuation of this theme, even to me it seems very important. As far as I am concerned, I am in a precarious health condition and I must relieve my activities that are not strictly indispensable (teaching and writing) until I restore myself.

I take advantage of it to send a dear greeting to you and to all the visitors of the site!


of the noble
 
philosophy of approach to design with catiaentered by chance, with the help of ferretium, in the problematic uuids, of numbering, naming and saving data (until now I have used only new, open and saved by name) because of malfunctions and strange behaviors of part, product their copies and their modifications, I realized I have discovered the vase of pandora.
After doing a search on the web I found many posts of forum tutorials and information in some contradictory cases.
I think it is useful then to try to spread a tutorial especially for students but also for less experienced users, to make clear the mechanism used by catia and above all to define the correct behavior to use to create, copy, replace, modify and save files especially when working with a large model or with a project containing similar multiple models, which ie differ only for some part or product.
often the goodness of a project is determined during the first steps since defining a valid structure, numbering and naming of smart files for a good management methodology, there will be big problems .
in all the books, tutorials, online courses and documentation, even the one within the catia, however exhaustive about the use of the single command or function, I have never found any hints about how everything interacts, as caia reasons and consequently acts. lacks the teaching of the approach strategy to design with catia. there is also no mention of “special” commands.
it is as if at school they taught to change to engine off or to steer to car stop.
when you go on the street music changes and are pains.
the wonder is that all the documents of a model are connected and interdependent, which allows to change an object and automatically change other n, replace and not lose links, copy and import objects from other projects without having to start again, use commercial models of existing components and much more. all though if you left with the right foot and the paved street is the right one. Otherwise you will find yourself unable to use all the potentialities of caia.
the steps of the long scale of mechanical design (the only one I take care of), before “drawing lines” and “extruding solids”, begin from afar.
it would be great if some gurus took the briga to write a manual of “philosophy cad per catia” by comparing examples and links to the posts of the various forums and tutorials found on the web.
this could be the prologue to the magnificent manual of the prof of the noble www.cad-3d.net/ (e.g. simple and complete) that would be so integrated by what is missing and the experience of those who work on the field. I've been writing a manual for a long time. We would very gladly benefit everyone, as we already benefit from his availability! ! !

you could create a... “cateapedia” with cascading topics, on which everyone could intervene, edit, add.
I will try to throw rock in the pond and...... if they are roses will bloom! ! !

the sketch that I attach here is in word format and can therefore be downloaded, modified and reposted.
in bold I have highlighted the doubts, questions, things to clarify.
I have tried to list certain data, things understood and those not understood so that experts can correct, integrate, modify and make the document clear and usable for all.
arguments may be added at will and sorted according to a logic that I have not yet clear.
if the thing obtains consent you should also think of a better method of word document to edit and repost (type wikipedia) before increasing its size.
wishes and good work marco
Hello, but this interesting idea what happened?
Catiapedia... fantastic idea!! !
free and free dissemination of knowledge, strength we share! !
 
Hi.
as administrator of the forum I wanted to give my full support for such an initiative.
I can configure on cad3d.it a "wiki" management system alongside that used by wikipedia (www.mediawiki.org) and give administrator passwords to one of you.
let me know by private message.
years ago
hi administrator,
is your proposal still feasible to configure a "wiki" management system on cad3d.it?

if you, you could start
let us know and thank you for all.
 
hi administrator,
is your proposal still feasible to configure a "wiki" management system on cad3d.it?

if you, you could start
let us know and thank you for all.
I put this between things to do. I'll let you know as soon as I'm ready.
 

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