piping con solidworks

[EARENDIL]

Hello everyone, I am new to the forum.
I have been following you for a long time, as I read in the various sections of the forum on solidworks, I have often managed to solve problems with the software in question.
I press that until now I have used solidworks for sketches on sheets and fireplaces of biomass boilers.
from here shortly in the company where I work, we will start working for some orders where you will need design and design of lines of technological plants, so they are looking for software for industrial piping.
I have already seen that solidworks allows to create complex networks, but I would like to know from you more experts if there are other better software.
what would interest me is if there are software that also help you in design, then with sizing tubes, flange fittings, and that produce both executive drawings in 2d and 3d.
In practice,and the question I ask dry: do I stay on solidworks or do you recommend me another software?

Thank you in advance for your answers!

 

[Iraz]

Hi.
right these days I am going crazy with the do routing part (which also concerns piping).
I came to the company and found the software and I "touch" to make it go well.
make a demonstration from the seller of what you have to realize to understand if it does to your case.

 

[Marve76]

a few months ago I tried to use pipe pipping myself and I met different difficulties.
to me it does not seem so intuitive to rout the pipping.. I find it difficult, when in fact what I had to do was just to attack 2 flanges where then from there two hydraulic tubes would start. ..nothing in everything...but to succeed in doing this takes a half day...(if I had drawn the same thing to tecnigraph I would have put at maximum 2 hours)...but of course, it does not seem to me the case to present a project to cad, with pipping designed to china 0.5.... )

on yuotube find something about it. . .any tutorial is in Italian,other no...
I managed to find the light in an English tutorial.

Further I know that I will have to reuse the pipping... already I have headaches!...and among other things I don't even remember all the steps to do it again. . .
This means that it is not very intuitive.

I have never used programs dedicated only to cable pipping, so I have no idea if there is anything better than sw.. but since we have also paid it, it would be appropriate to make it easier and intuitive.
to make it short, my parer is quite uncomfortable and complicated the pipping on sw,

 

[EARENDIL]

I have started these days to process a bit of lines, and it is actually not as intuitive as it is with the development of solids in 3d.
There's actually work on it.
Does anyone else use solidworks for piping?

 

[mawell]

after all these years you still use solidworks to make piping? ?
or you have changed software, and if you use it?

I'm looking for info about cad piping and p&id but I don't find much information about it. . .

 

[re_solidworks]

I say mine. piping modules contained in cad as solidworks, are designed for small machine edge plants, when you have the mechanical design made in swx and change system for piping would be greater the banging to interface cad different than the advantages of another system. If you do big plants instead, then you should bang and go on vertical software. a few years ago, just on this forum, I had read discussions about it, but memory betrays me and I do not remember user and software in question. Try to do a search.

 

[mawell]

Thank you, King! sincerely I have done many researches also in addition to this forum, and it is hard to find review information of comparison among various cads.

we do smoke treatment on large plants, so I definitely need a vertical sw. Currently we have taken briscad + hexapro, but we have not understood if we have made the right choice.

I know that many use autocad + plant, but also this does not convince me because they are 3d of old conception and without the actual parameters.

On the other day, looking, I came across this third-party software for solidworks solidplant or it is also called smap3d. ?

someone has some comparison comments
esapro
plant
smap3d (solidplant)
? ?


thank you so much to all and good work

 

[TINO]

I used smap3d a few years ago, and I made a whole job.
the software works very well on solidworks basis, but it is a little inconvenienced regarding configuration.
in the company, I don't know why, they then abandoned it, but I think if you plan in solidworks, and you don't want to switch to other software the tool is valid.
Of course you'd need a basic course to start working.

 

[mawell]

Thank you, Tino!

When you say that configuration is a little messed up, do you mean the first phase of each software to configure all its aspects? then an initial messed-up phase and then rise? or is software messed up every time I open a new project?

have you abandoned smap3d in favor of what? now with what software or organization do plants.

Thank you for sharing your experience, I will definitely need you! !

 

[TINO]

the main casino lies in the initial installation, the software consists of various applications.
then obvious you have to learn how to set it up for the various orders.
we now at the level of piping we use esapro.

 

[mawell]

Thank you. I'm sorry if I keep asking questions, but now you're the only person I know who uses esapro ahaha.

I think you use esapro with briscad (or autocad) to make p&id and piping. the whole of the plant completes it in briscad or autocad, or then export everything to solidworks?

from us you would like to use briscad 3d to make the whole plant (briscad in practice is the cheap autocad clone), with piping made by hexapro. Does it look like a path?

do you know the reasons why you left smap3d in favor of esapro?

from us have just bought hexapro. use tips or sites or forums where you can compare them?

Thank you very much

 

[TINO]

then now using briscad, but not me, I remained in mechanical design with solidworks.
for the moment the machines with solidworks develop, then they export to step, from here the layout is realized, with attached pipes.
I'm sorry.
they abandoned smap3d, I sincerely developing the project with solidworks found it more functional, but at the change of business management, the decision fell on esapro, briscad.

 

[mawell]

well! then the mechanics and structures in solidworks, p&id and piping with esapro + briscad. finally make the final axieme/layout in briscad importing steps from solidworks. then build the definitive axieme with briscad3d.

Do I understand?

according to you the choice briscad + esapro was a choice of economy? also because the costs are very different.

In general, esapro and smap3d are similar to you? or does one win on the other?

the point is that I am designer solidworks, in the company I am the only one who can design. I would like to push the change but objectively I do not know if I take this responsibility as I do not know about it. But for now I have braided guts to use briscad.

when I pass by your side I offer you a beer!!