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[BonzoRosso]

Good morning.
My problem is the following.
in my workbook where I keep my full model now I have to add some steps they sent me.
I can't send native catia and can't make a unique step of the axieme that are delivering me for time size limits machine for file opening.
in the delivery there are several steps that contain many different axiemic models but also many identical parts such as vines and other physical pieces that are reassembled in other subaxis.
when I do the openings with saving management save everything in the same folder and overwrite the files for having last version of the object.
I create a new *.catproduct and insert into the various converted axioms.
at this point I have to put everything in design and go for each together to edit all the links that obviously lost during overwriting of the file and I have to do it individually one by one, or groups when the element is the same.
So I also have difficulties that I have to go check every single subaxeme until the general babbo update icon gives me no more chance to update.
Now does any of you have a simpler way?
Have any of you already written a macro? If you would be willing to share it?
Is there any settling that will allow me to do these operations without having to change all the time 2500 assemblies?

Thank you.

 

[falonef]

Sorry, I didn't get a bunch of your message.

we go by order, explain the first problem

 

[BonzoRosso]

in my workbook "a" I have mine together with.catproduct assembled.
1) company "xxx" sends 2 step:
- pluto.stp
- pippo.stp
2) step opening and conversion to *.catproduct, subaxis and parts up to the last item
3) save and save management in the "a" workbook of the first and second product at this point he finds pieces in common or already present in the work and I must mandatoryly overwrite because they could be more recent and complete the rescue.
4) opening of mine together with.catproduct and inserting the two assemblies. at this point I have many broken links because overwriting the files of parts or assemblies, catia will manage to recover only some links. the problem will also be present in assemblies that I had already in my folder and used parts that have sent me back.
5) At this point together I have to select each single set, change-links and replace the link, one by one. the process is simple but it is only very long and repetitive and does not even have a center to show you which assemblies have "problems".

So I was wondering if I was wrong or do you have a simpler way?
Have any of you already written a macro? If you would be willing to share it?
There is some settling that allows me to do these operations without having to change every time 2500 axioms.

the problem resurfaces me every time they send me new documents and I can't create different folders from which I can upload the various steps.

I hope that I have been clearer, unfortunately the problem is somewhat articulated.

 

[gianni55]

Hi.

solutions I do not have but (maybe) if I understand better what you have to do I can try some suggestions

01) Are you the commissioner who assembles the "full model"?

02) do you work by modifying them or creating new ones only on some of the components?

Hi.

 

[BonzoRosso]

Hi.

solutions I do not have but (maybe) if I understand better what you have to do I can try some suggestions

01) Are you the commissioner who assembles the "full model"?

02) do you work by modifying them or creating new ones only on some of the components?

Hi.

01) you are the commissioner who assembles the model;
02) I work on much of the models or subaxis and I have to restructure the tree since what they provide me does not go in equality with what the customer asked me. the .*catdrawing of each single code must also be realized

 

[falonef]

you have the problem because at the time of saving the steps in catia documents, you inevitably go to create new files that have different uuid.

that is why despite saving them in the same folder with the same name, catia loses links.

 

[gianni55]

as I suspected: the worst perspective. . .

I imagine that you can only act by limiting overwriting, if the products and consequently the components are many overwrites each time involves a delirium of re-connections, with drawings then I see it hard.

I make some considerations:

for the parts:

01) screws and normalized should not change, so no overwriting
02) the parts that do not change must be identified, therefore no overwriting
03) changing parts must be overwritten and reconnected including drawing
04) the added parts do not happen anything (but you have to find what they are)
05) the deleted parts do not happen anything (but you have to find which are)

for products:

06) where the position and quantity of the normalized must be overwrite the product
07) where changes the position and quantity of the parts you have to overwrite the product
08) any change below the main father in all subsets should be reconnected

said this is to keep under control the changes that come and here I make work hypotheses:

09) I have my complete set in a folder, save it in 3dxml in a folder with a date
10) I create a new product for analysis and insert 3dxml and start loading the received steps
11) check the green color and the line dashed at 3dxml
12) check the red color and the line continues to the products received
13) analytic (better produced by product) the old and the new = red dotted line and continuous line green overlap = nothing has changed; only green line = suppressed component; only red line added component; green and red lines that diverge = modified component
14) I leave only what changes and arrange to enter the variants in the complete axieme and reconnect
15) to the next sending process

Let me know.

 

[falonef]

solution:
Create a catpart and save it by name to your pippo pleasure.

insert the cat part into your catproduct.

Now if you receive the new step of the pippo geometry, I suggest you open it in the catia, copy the geometry and insert it into the logical tree of poplar.

then save pippo.
the file is not overwritten and therefore the uuid remains intact.

uuid > search in forum or web.

Let us know.

 

[BonzoRosso]

thanks to both for the answers.

As for the process of analyzing what they send me and reconnect only some product I think this can be done for small assemblies, it is true that vines and other normalized do not change but I have a tide of subassiems that break the balls.

to respond instead to falonef it is clear what you tell me but the problem does not solve it, moreover if I copied for every axiemi and generate a new file with the logical tree I should do it for all the children below also if the same together I had also recalled in several parts I would lose all the ties.

I was hoping for a sort of macro that analyzes and reconnects if it finds a "unconnected" cell, a macro that renames all the children's recurrences, subwives up to the last level and works really well, I thought of such a thing.. .

 

[gianni55]

As for the process of analyzing what they send me and reconnect only some product I think this can be done for small assemblies, it is true that vines and other normalized do not change but I have a tide of subassiems that break the balls.

the procedure I described to you used for whole cars: shell, mobile parts, ends etc. including screws and in more versions of the car.. .

See you.

Hi.

years ago

 

[BonzoRosso]

the procedure I described to you used for whole cars: shell, mobile parts, ends etc. including screws and in more versions of the car.. .

See you.

Hi.

years ago

I would never allow myself to judge your system, indeed I thank you for the answer and the solution, of course to analyze everything that is great idea but I think at the same time to do before going to restore the link manually, maybe I put the same time.. .
and unfortunately they are always running, as I imagine. . .

 

[gianni55]

Hi.

I want to point out that my answer had no controversy, I just wanted to specify that the procedure can also be used for large assemblies.

of course you only know in detail your work and you can choose the best and fastest solution.

in my work I had to intercept the deleted/replaced/adjusted/modified components and act accordingly (from start to final production), to the suppliers I imposed a certain order of sending, some customers were well organized, but the crazy monkeys who send everything never fail.

Hi.

years ago