portable pc requirements and problems in sw start-up

[alex_supertramp]

Bye to all,
I ask that I am new to the forum/site so you have some patience if maybe my questions have already been partly addressed by you experts of cad 3d!!
I am a 30-year technical designer with 7 years of experience in the interior locks/furnish sector and a couple spent in the industrial automation industry. for about 2 months I started using solidworks after attending a basic course lasting 24 hours (not many but useful to give a flourish on the program). finished the course, I installed solidworks 2009 version sp3.0 and so I started to "seat" on the program.
that we come to the problem that I write to you. I installed the version on my laptop which is a notebook with the following features:toshiba a200 purchased at the end of 2008 with s.o. 32-bit "windows view home premium", intel(r) core(tm)2 cpu (t5500@1.66ghz 1.67ghz),
3 gb ram memory, graphics card nvidia geforce go 7300.My main problem is that when launching the program often crashes, I do ctrl+alt+canc to unlock everything and after 2 restarts so about sw the program starts to work. inter alia if they are not connected to the internet, the program is impossible to unlock even with the classic ctrl+alt+canc operation because a window appears that says the system is busy.

then I tried to navigate the solidworks website to the page http://www.solidworks.it/sw/support/systemrequirements.html to "pass" the required requirements.
I noticed that as a ram memory it is recommended at least 1 gb (I am in amply) while what worries me is the operating system since windows home premium view is not mentioned among the "recommended" systems for sw 2009 (among other things marked by a post at the bottom of the page, see note nr. 11 in the link to the site). Plus my s.o. is 32-bit, perhaps not exactly optimal to work with this program.
I know that even the graphics card is not really suitable for sw but for the use that I make at home (not at very high levels, if the sense that I do not load heavy assemblies) I can content myself with...
at this point what I addressed to you is:
I have to "please" about how "gira" sw on this notebook (personally I do not think it is further improved since I have already purchased it assembled in a shopping mall) even if I have these problems, otherwise since I would want to buy a fixed pc which type and model (write me some technical features) that I buy you recommend to do?
of course the use I would do is not at very high levels so I did not want to spend thousands of euros... but I would be happy to buy a pc that allows me to "turn" decently sw 2009. I know that windows view is not as high as s.o. so maybe it would be better to throw (in case of purchase of new pc) on win xp or win 7, right?
I hope to have been clear in my request, in the meantime I thank those who will answer me first.. .

good weekend designers! :finger:

bye:36_3_2:

alex

 

[re_solidworks]

I suggest you try installing seven on your pc, maybe you take a trial version and see if it's running. Otherwise you do not need anything special except a picture or firegl.
you could orientate yourself on a 1500 precision workstation (part from great distribution prices) or a assembled not to the last cry like a core2duo t6600 or higher, 4 gb ram, hd sata normal, fx 580 or 1800 painting.
with these components you spend little and (with the 1800s) you can make us very respectful assemblies.

 

[alex_supertramp]

Hello re_sw,

So you also think my problem is due to the 32-bit view version I installed? I had similar symptoms, too. . .
about win 7 you mean a s.o. 64-bit real (professional)? How much do you think I should spend on an upgrade? (I'm not very expert on s.o.)
time ago I asked my trusted technician to be able to switch to win xp professional but he had not advised me because the pc had been purchased at the great distribution so it was not totally editable as the assembled... I should understand if with win 7 things change.. What do you think?
As for the desktop PC of the (you only order it via internet?) t1500 more or less how much you think I would spend? I know that the figure changes according to customization. . but considering that my use is "at home" I just need it to work decently. ..
Then you said some assemblies... with the features mentioned in the previous email, how much money do you think I should invest even considering that I would need a screen?

thanks for the answer in advance.

Bye!

 

[Poly]

hello if you are not connected to the internet crashes and does not work because it tries to verify the validity of the license. the 7300go is not bad, if you have assiem with a few hundred components should make it. Obviously the realview does not work. the problem is precisely home premium view 32. It would work much better with xp32 downgrade. You have to see if the toshiba also gave you the disk to reformat the laptop for downgrade with all the right drivers or if this option is available for download. If not it would be a chance to reformat the car. as re_solidworks says the fact also of the excellent laptops with geforce cards and picture at about 1100-1200 € excluding certificates for intensive graphics applications and allow you to bring home work:tongue:

 

[re_solidworks]

the t1550 starts from 629 €+iva and in the end it is not a "normal" stumbled upon when I say "normal" I mean that they are workstations with i7 core processors and not xeon, so you can assign the same workstation from you.
to upgrade to seven you unfortunately have to spend a bit, the upgrade costs only 20 € less than retail, so I recommend you take a retail one tomorrow you can use on another pc. I recently purchased win 7 ultimate retail (which includes both version 32 and 64 bit) at 269.99 iva included and is not little.
a good midrange assembly as I suggested will cost you about 900 - 1000 euro VAT included.
consider that you will have 100 euros for the motherboard, 100 for the cpu, 100 for the rams, 100 for the power supply, 50 for the case, 30 for a dvd burner, 60 for a capacious hard disk and 400 - 500 for the picture 1800 (half for the 580).

 

[alex_supertramp]

@ re_sw: then buying retail + 20 eu (this is only for update?) I would spend on 290 eu. in case of only update you can do directly via the internet right? with retail I would have the possibility to install it on another pc that nn is little. but with the update is sure that it works sw?
It seems to me that the same house that offers me some I can assemble it alone with the components and the expense that you wrote on me otherwise buying it from the internet.

@poly: unfortunately I don't know yet if I can do the downgrade... my technician hadn't advised me... but I didn't think it was a definitive statement. I have to go deeper.
I didn't understand...that is, the program tries to understand the validity of the license... but the same problem I would have even installed the other s.o.? or did I miss qls in the installation phase?

thanks to both... If I have any other doubts, I will contact you.

alex

 

[sampom]

hello if you are not connected to the internet crashes and does not work because it tries to verify the validity of the license.

It's not about that. once installed and made registration checks (which can also be "off line", later by email or even ordinary mail) the program always works even when you are disconnected.. and we'd miss it, it's not mandatory for everyone to have the internet. Indeed, many ws keep them out of the network specially and only with installed so and cad program.

I didn't understand...that is, the program tries to understand the validity of the license...? or did I miss qls in the installation phase?

definitely the second you said. Try reinstalling.
read the instructions carefully during the procedure; you can also register later, it leaves you a 30-day "proof" time before confirming the license, and using it quietly off line.

greetings
Mar

 

[re_solidworks]

spend 270 for the ultimate, if it is retail is full and you do not need to have an os to update. you can install it on one pc at a time, but unlike oem you can remove it from one and put it back on another.

 

[alex_supertramp]

@re_sw: now it is clear... therefore almost at the same price it is best to buy the retail. but I'm sorry for a newbie question... What does oem mean? do you mean the update with this theme? Would you think the update to 7 would take away some problems that I also match with other programs or would it be more convenient (even in the economic aspect) to do a xp professional downgrade?

@sampon: but my sw 2009 sp.3.. cut..this may be a problem... but other friends work on win xp, so I think it's just the s.o. Premium home view that is a bit "difficult". I could try to reinstall. . .

 

[marcof]

the candor of the people of our times, where if you do not have at least a conflict of interests and a first-degree condemnation passed into judgement for fraud or tax evasion you are no one and you can certainly hope to enter parliament... :frown:
for what you paid him that swx works too well. I imagine that even for osd and autocad you were supplied by the same "reseller" huh?
to the face of free market and fair competition. I'd be your competitor to send you finance without thinking twice.
You better cancel and get back here with another nikname, being careful not to be recognized in the future, because here of other help I don't think you will find it.

Get lost. . .

 

[alex_supertramp]

@..cut... calm down... we try not to accuse people by party taken... ...
Who do you think you are, Judge 3d? ? ...
Don't let me pass through the "truder" in turn. That's what I do!
Who is without sin casts the first stone.. .

 

[sampom]

Calm down... we try not to accuse people by party taken....
And who do you think you are, Judge 3d?? ? ..... don't let me pass through the "truder" in turn... I'm so sorry!
.... who is without sin throws the first stone.. .

"breakfast in america". .
If anyone has to be calm, that's you.
First message you put out with is what. I was undergoing something like this and if you were "awakening" you would realize that at the time I edited some phrase "dubbia" of your post.. but obviously we fall from the pear and above all we enter guests in "public places" without reading the rules!
Of course, here we talk about programs.. officers and regularly fired! !
Nobody cares about anything you do at your house until you go cheat on common interests. But here it is expressly forbidden to speak/publize anything illicit and arguments like yours should not be minimally touched. and if you have a minimum of common sense you get yourself (but for the "naives" there is always the clear beautiful regulation).

and no longer allow you to turn with these tones to people who not only "believe to be" but certainly are more rash than you if nothing else to the civil cohabiter, and at least they are accustomed to thinking before talking.

you are warned; If you're doing well, otherwise you'll change your way before you close it completely here.

And don't let me tell you where I'd take the stones. .

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Mar

 

[Poly]

General rules paragraph 10.