Ecathe
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Hello, everyone! you would tell me where to find families of prefabricated panels in c.a. with insulation?the typical prefabricated shed panels. in particular those with incarceration. .
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Ecathe
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hi! a few days ago my previous thread with a new domanduccia: I am continuing to look for families of prefabricated panels but without results, unfortunately! meanwhile I think of other roads to bypass the problem...according to you if I did them as a continuous facade putting as element of the panel the walls of a family created ad hoc?? I tried and in theory very theoretical (but really much) could go. Do you have any advice?
Tristan
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Sounds like a good idea. try and let us know
Ecathe
Guest
I tried with the facade but when it replaces the glass a wall of 28 cm I must be 100% sure that it is right otherwise it does not make me practically change it!boh!!! Have you ever dealt with the sheds in prefabricated elements?
Tristan
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no, I'm sorry, never had to deal with industrial sheds (if not for an examination at university)
Ecathe
Guest
so much for curiosity... if you had to make panels of mothed to ink, thick about 30 cm as you would proceed?(ah the panels are not all identical, are arranged horizontally and sometimes have obviously tape windows to complicate everything)
Ecathe
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for today I got away... or at least I think... I followed the following procedure
1) from the design bar I went on "modelling" then on "create" and I chose the wall item.
2)from the view in the plant I drew the shape of my blessed panels and extruded them.. .
3) in perspective I copied the panels every time I needed to vary from time to time the heights according to my need.
4) then I closed the family.. .
I don't understand two things:
a) why if I have created an element through the above procedure, can I not copy it if not going to change the family?
b) I can put openings (windows and doors) only in prospectus.
Did I do something wrong?
1) from the design bar I went on "modelling" then on "create" and I chose the wall item.
2)from the view in the plant I drew the shape of my blessed panels and extruded them.. .
3) in perspective I copied the panels every time I needed to vary from time to time the heights according to my need.
4) then I closed the family.. .
I don't understand two things:
a) why if I have created an element through the above procedure, can I not copy it if not going to change the family?
b) I can put openings (windows and doors) only in prospectus.
Did I do something wrong?
gfrank
Guest
the continuous façade is definitely a good starting point.
conceptually, the facade continues, defines the surface bounded by a perimeter, which in your case, as an example is defined:
- horizontally by the panel's piercing/foundation, below, and by the element of the pipe, beam of the beam, at the top;
- vertically by two successive (prefabricated) pillars.
defined the surface, to the same one can assign/set the panels, through the insertion of grids that can divide into "blocks/pannelli" the facade itself.
the individual panels, can be managed individually, to which the specific material and thickness can be attributed.
using the default elements, to make the fc, go to a plant view using the commands:
start>muro>muro, and from the properties of the type uses the "muro" continuous facade (it should be at the top of the list.
track the segment from pilasto to pilasto and from a section/prospectus/3d view aligns the perimeter to the outline structures (for exercise purposes you can try to make the facade even without contour structures)
drawn the fc, from a view of prospectus or 3d, using the command:
beginning > façade grill,
you can insert the "dividing lines" in your horizontal case, placing on the vertical edge (or on the horizontal edge for vertical cuts).
Now, with the tab+cursor key, you can select the single derived panel, to which, through the properties (clicking where the written "system panel ....) appears, you can assign a type of wall (without any problem to change them later).
Therefore, for example, I can divide the fc by (from the ground);
- 1 2 m cls panel
- 1 2 m cls panel
- 1 window to 1 m
- 1 cls panel from 1 m (to bent)
check a "muro in cls" to the 3 panels "opache.
assigning, instead, the glass material to the panel of the tape window, the same remains a "window", which can still be divided with the grid command above.
Of course, grid segments can be modified, shortened, removed, with the appropriate commands.
to the grid segments (glass tape), you can assign a "profile" with the "mounting" command.
if you need to insert a door, you must proceed to perform a grid equal to the size of the door, and then enter the specific port family (be careful that some types of doors cannot be used).
If you have a family of tape windows, instead of using the above procedure, in the "window panel" you can insert the tape window.
conceptually, the facade continues, defines the surface bounded by a perimeter, which in your case, as an example is defined:
- horizontally by the panel's piercing/foundation, below, and by the element of the pipe, beam of the beam, at the top;
- vertically by two successive (prefabricated) pillars.
defined the surface, to the same one can assign/set the panels, through the insertion of grids that can divide into "blocks/pannelli" the facade itself.
the individual panels, can be managed individually, to which the specific material and thickness can be attributed.
using the default elements, to make the fc, go to a plant view using the commands:
start>muro>muro, and from the properties of the type uses the "muro" continuous facade (it should be at the top of the list.
track the segment from pilasto to pilasto and from a section/prospectus/3d view aligns the perimeter to the outline structures (for exercise purposes you can try to make the facade even without contour structures)
drawn the fc, from a view of prospectus or 3d, using the command:
beginning > façade grill,
you can insert the "dividing lines" in your horizontal case, placing on the vertical edge (or on the horizontal edge for vertical cuts).
Now, with the tab+cursor key, you can select the single derived panel, to which, through the properties (clicking where the written "system panel ....) appears, you can assign a type of wall (without any problem to change them later).
Therefore, for example, I can divide the fc by (from the ground);
- 1 2 m cls panel
- 1 2 m cls panel
- 1 window to 1 m
- 1 cls panel from 1 m (to bent)
check a "muro in cls" to the 3 panels "opache.
assigning, instead, the glass material to the panel of the tape window, the same remains a "window", which can still be divided with the grid command above.
Of course, grid segments can be modified, shortened, removed, with the appropriate commands.
to the grid segments (glass tape), you can assign a "profile" with the "mounting" command.
if you need to insert a door, you must proceed to perform a grid equal to the size of the door, and then enter the specific port family (be careful that some types of doors cannot be used).
If you have a family of tape windows, instead of using the above procedure, in the "window panel" you can insert the tape window.
gfrank
Guest
... if I don't remember badly, you use 2009, and the commands are a bit different ... but the concepts of "grill" are those that you have to assimilate...
gfrank
Guest
p.s. I moved the debate in the forum revit
gfrank
Guest
the other solution is to use the families of the walls.
insert the walls as if they were panels at later altitudes.
insert a single wall with delimitation of the panels (horizontal) with the use of extrusions on wall in subtraction, creating the suitable profile
in this case you can insert (more comfortably) the families of doors and windows (a tape parametric window), or leave a space in the wall and insert the tape window with the continuous facade
insert the walls as if they were panels at later altitudes.
insert a single wall with delimitation of the panels (horizontal) with the use of extrusions on wall in subtraction, creating the suitable profile
in this case you can insert (more comfortably) the families of doors and windows (a tape parametric window), or leave a space in the wall and insert the tape window with the continuous facade
nirvana
Guest
made with families (it should be in 2009) derived from the original rdb designs.Ecathe
Guest
excuse the delay but I was away on holiday a few days
ringrazio gfrank for the excellent and detailed description. I found myself very well and although the 2009 version did not fully reflect the commands described I did not find any difficulty in orientation.I made the facade with the panels and everything, without too many cases.
But now the customer wants the windows to continue without interruption between the panels...that means it wants a blind door in correspondence of the vertical division line of the panels... but if they place a window exactly on the demarcation line I just "hole" a panel instead of both... I tried to search but I did not find similar problems. ..probably it is xke a window cannot normally stand between two walls... but you may know some method to make both panels "bucare". .
Ecathe
Guest
erm...exactly I don't know what I've done/scratch but one of the thousand attempts I've made has drilled both panels
boh!! Does anyone know how I did it explain? I solved the problem... if only I knew how...boh!!!
boh!! Does anyone know how I did it explain? I solved the problem... if only I knew how...boh!!!gfrank
Guest
... have you eliminated the horizontal dividing line between the two panels?
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Ecathe
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No, I didn't. However I re-porved (to understand how to do) and in practice just enter the window positioning it exactly on the grid line and then move it to a later time. in this way it allows to "bucare" two panels.