print dwg from microstation

[Marco85]

Good morning to all
I have been working for some years in the "yacht design", at the university I learned autocad, then I met in the office microstation and I abandoned the other program.The only problem I have always had is to interface with other customers.(always required dwg).in this new office where I work they decided to work with microstation but with dwg file, to avoid losing time in exports not always optimal. But some problmei have arisen and I hope someone can help me:
1) Every handful of minutes appears a window with request to save the changes made,
the problem is that it takes time to save and after saving it loses the set set set set (sometimes creates the layers I had previously deleted?? )
2) most important and urgent thing for me is the ability to print.
or with dgn files I have the possibility in the layer manager to select by level or override, but with dwg files no, is there the possibility of an optimal setting?
3) is there the possibility to create layouts (as autocad) to manage prints with cartiglio and manage the scale?(to this I have for now solved with a file apart and managing the design as reference!

I apologize for the multitude of questions, I threw out the other discussions but I did not find useful answers to my problems

I thank everyone who listens to me in advance
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[Marco85]

Perhaps I felt bad in the request to print,
I can print in the plotter or pdf without problems, but I can set I have color or monochromatic without having the possibility to give the layer 2 colors one display to monitor and one print! what recently discovered for dg n files and found very useful and precise!

 

[numero1]

I don't know what to answer... I remain basic: (in micro I have always worked with dgn, in autocad with dwg.
and after (if necessary) it was exported from one to another .... and I do not remember having had particular problems during conversion.
agree that very often outside require the dwg, but in the naval field in Italy there strong micro or dgn.
now from you, to have no problems after (in export) you created them immediately...... It doesn't seem like a solution.
It's true that it's a long time I don't open micro, but in my nose I can tell you that it's obvious that he (micro) puts us time to save in dwg.
it is not his native format....... anyway to move on, and for other users you should write:
1) which version used of micro 7.8, etc. ....
2) in which version you want to come out the vs. dwg, 2000, 2004, etc. ....
If someone has a solution to give it to you, it must have these 2 fundamental data.
Hi.

 

[Marco85]

hello thank you for the answer,
Meanwhile, work with microstation v8
and dwg for autocads are various, those unfortunately depend on the customer, 2000 or previous autocads
as you said in the Italian naval field goes strong micro, but we work mainly for non-Italian chanters, orqa we see a little thank you.. .

 

[Exatem]

I don't know what to answer... I remain basic: (in micro I have always worked with dgn, in autocad with dwg.
and after (if necessary) it was exported from one to another .... and I do not remember having had particular problems during conversion.
agree that very often outside require the dwg, but in the naval field in Italy there strong micro or dgn.
now from you, to have no problems after (in export) you created them immediately...... It doesn't seem like a solution.
It's true that it's a long time I don't open micro, but in my nose I can tell you that it's obvious that he (micro) puts us time to save in dwg.
it is not his native format....... anyway to move on, and for other users you should write:
1) which version used of micro 7.8, etc. ....
2) in which version you want to come out the vs. dwg, 2000, 2004, etc. ....
If someone has a solution to give it to you, it must have these 2 fundamental data.
Hi.

Mah! I have always had big problems on the text and on the line styles.
I agree with you that it is better when working with micro stay within the dgn and then export eventually to dwg format.
on the times... I think micro is fast enough to convert native format to autocad format.
Bye.

 

[numero1]

I would say so, but I don't think it's like that.
to me it seems + serious to intuition .... if they were only texts you put little to "restaurate" the design.
to assess what the problems encountered should (we or others) have the opportunity to see practical examples.
on the times I agree with you exa the conversion is fast, besides marco uses a version of micro that begins to have many points of contact with autocad...... already if the passage was from micro 7 to autocad was different.

@marco:
1) if you can post examples to see
2) small advice if the autocad format is different from customer to customer you make it unique.

or you work in dgn and then try to export to dxf, or in iges or etc...... and after only after amounts in autocad, and you choose what gives you the best results.
You tried to export not in dwg, but in all other ways?
Hi.

 

[Marco85]

hi guys, then I convinced the "chief" to use microstation for that ke serve (i.e. working in dgn), what he frightened was the loss of time for exports in dwg, because in fact when exporting in dwg are not respected printing styles, and the prosperity of many objects such as girdles,
and with the fillings is even more difficult because, because then in autocad they are placed not always behind the lines of drawing.This is the fundamental rock, working with boats of 65 meters and more every time you can not lose time to explode and remake the fillings in autocad.
now we have a pc again with a version of autocad/12 and I will carry out some export tests.
we say that what I have to get is the ability to work in dgn and print correctly (level symbologi or not) and export to dwg and print by autocad with a set ctb that gives the same results ...
so that when you interface with the customer (which is on the other side of the world) I can send him the dwg and the ctb to allow him to print correctly (in addition to the pdf we always send)
I'll get some evidence as soon as the pc is active and I'll let you know
Thank you very much

 

[numero1]

carcad 12??
ho capito bene

 

[numero1]

However well that you convinced your "chief", for the other questions:

1) suffice all restraints to be on the same level/layer and so leaving only the active one you bring them all behind in one shot only
2) or if they have to be on different levels/layers select them all in one shot only with _filter (by autocad) and take them all behind in one shot only

You don't have to explode and do anything... I think autocad recognizes the microsketch, now I go to memory and I don't have the chance to do evidence.

what is written at points 1 and 2 obviously not only for restraints, but for almost everything.
Hi.

p.s.
but why autocad 12? what would be the advantage?

 

[Marco85]

advantage of autocad 12?? I don't know.
I know only that the version we installed in the office is autocad 2012 and I reported,
certain the file that will be issued, will have to have maximum compatibility!
I with autocad I don't find myself prorpio anymore, I prefer grtan long microstation
today I have had other precedents (photoshop) then I will dedicate myself to understanding the problem encountered in the past during the exports of the fillings.
is true also what it says <<numero1>> if the different restraints or entities are all found a dedicated layer is easier work.. .
cmq having convinced the boss is a goal!
more than anything for us, we have to work fast, and we have to optimize the times!!</numero1>

 

[numero1]

ahhhhhhhh 2012 not 12....... It seemed a little weird.
Hi.