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[teseo]

hello to everyone I noticed something quite worrying:

If I make a distinct material of a set of subaxes I would expect to find in the latter all the parts that make up my set; but for some time it's not like this anymore or I've noticed it with extreme delay......

I attach an image to make better understand; of those assemblies (blue contour) there are three in the main axieme; but then parts (the ones highlighted in yellow) are present only those to make it one only!!!!!! How come ; it has been a while since I slam my head I have checked that there are no exclusions from distinct materials but nothing....the repeated assemblies do them or with repetitions or with mirrors is a problem?? ? ?

Where am I wrong? ? ?

Thank you.

 

[Tantocattivo]

when you make the distinction there are various options, only parts, first level etc etc., check those.
And anyway, just to talk, I expect to find the things that need to do that, so leave and sub-assiem. what it takes to do the subassieme I want to find it in the table to do the subasieme, because maybe I put them indications, measures, that instead in the upper axieme would not make sense. If then instead I have to make a shopping list, then I only separate parts and face down for all levels of subassiemi.

cmq I have verified and also to me does the same thing, but in fact it is right so, because those are the parts and quantities of every subaxieme, then you have to do 2,3, or those that are.

 

[teseo]

when you make the distinction there are various options, only parts, first level etc etc., check those.
And anyway, just to talk, I expect to find the things that need to do that, so leave and sub-assiem. what it takes to do the subassieme I want to find it in the table to do the subasieme, because maybe I put them indications, measures, that instead in the upper axieme would not make sense. If then instead I have to make a shopping list, then I only separate parts and face down for all levels of subassiemi.

cmq I have verified and also to me does the same thing, but in fact it is right so, because those are the parts and quantities of every subaxieme, then you have to do 2,3, or those that are.

I tried to change "type of distinct materials " but the result does not change unfortunately; I don't have the correct number of components that make up my main set. ...
I don't think I have to control how many subaxes exist and then multiply the various components for that number seems a little silly, since the system has in "patch" how many subaxes exist..... there will be a way....
if I put only parts then the parts that are formed with the structural elements function does not give me the possibility to have a detailed distinction....

Thank you.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Just the one that's been saying so bad. that is a distinct with indent and therefore lists the necessary parts to build the axieme to which they are referred.

 

[Tantocattivo]

I don't have such a set under my hand, but there's a distinct detailed cut tick, this should solve your problem

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

if the structural element is a part will have its own code and then its design with the specifications that serve the detailed or cut distinction? if you don't have to make the drawing try to insert it as a tool box or if you have to use file you start in this you put a voice in the properties for which in the separate materials the file name or description appears (when I have the pc an example)

 

[teseo]

I don't have such a set under my hand, but there's a distinct detailed cut tick, this should solve your problem

When you're just leaving, unfortunately,

Hi.
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if the structural element is a part will have its own code and then its design with the specifications that serve the detailed or cut distinction? if you don't have to make the drawing try to insert it as a tool box or if you have to use file you start in this you put a voice in the properties for which in the separate materials the file name or description appears (when I have the pc an example)

I don't really understand this. .

Thank you

 

[drake]

I fear the total of the parts used on the separate of the upper-order axieme you never have. He's been talking about it so many times and by the way a little while ago. you can only change the table manually and add, if you feel appropriate, a column with totals... or separate, starting from the upper-order axieme and then going down the level. but if you want to know the total number of individual parts used in a job, you have no other means than to do the hand conticino. seems an absurd but it is so with sw, unless you buy some pdm.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I know that I was unclear but from mobile it is not practical to write. However later I give better explanations and examples

 

[teseo]

I fear the total of the parts used on the separate of the upper-order axieme you never have. He's been talking about it so many times and by the way a little while ago. you can only change the table manually and add, if you feel appropriate, a column with totals... or separate, starting from the upper-order axieme and then going down the level. but if you want to know the total number of individual parts used in a job, you have no other means than to do the hand conticino. seems an absurd but it is so with sw, unless you buy some pdm.

Sorry today is no day

Hi.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

we start from a general concept; in solidworks we can have two types of subaxis:
the fictitious one that serves to speed up and streamline assembly (e.g. bearing groups)
the codified one that corresponds in the logistic management to a part of the commission.

in my opinion, but every ut has its dynamics, in the distinct the fictitious axieme should not be seen and therefore its parts should be viewed as if they were part of the general axieme with the global quantities the encoded axieme must be seen as if it were a part and therefore in distinct I will have to see only that and its quantities and not its parts that instead will be listed in the table dedicated to him.
in a first-level hybrid set where I have both fictitious and encoded subaxis, keeping good the above management, you have to manage the individual subaxis to make sure they do or do not show the parts. this is done by going into the subaxieme configuration and setting separate options on display/promote/hide. so doing in the first level axieme I can have a subaxieme that is shown as such while another is not shown but its parts yes.

As regards the structural elements, I try to explain better:
the possible solutions are based on how the part is managed.
if the part, even if it is a profile without processing, is encoded in separate will have to appear as a single part with its code
if the part in case it does not have processing is managed with a simple description that identifies the measure there are two roads:
- insert it as toolbox element, in this way the coding will bring a description
- insert it as a part, however, taking advantage of the different materials equations (I then carry an example). In practice, a voice (e.g. encoding) must be created within each part with two variables (e.g. yes and no), then in the separate materials in the column of the drawing code an equation is inserted in which it is said that if the variable of coding è si then must be compiled, if instead the variable is no only the description column must be compiled.

I hope I've been a little clearer. I put an image of the last point, after lunch I see to put a little together

 

[teseo]

thanks solid as always... .

 

[drake]

your reasoning does not make a fold, obvious that with sw it is so. However, it is necessary to intervene manually to obtain a result. It would be enough to define a table model that allows to set the equations, but at the moment it is not possible. The only way you have with the distinct is what you said.

 

[Tantocattivo]

to me with only parts it works, it "explodes" the assemblies and I sum the parts.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

However, it is necessary to intervene manually to obtain a result.

It is not clear what result you refer to. cutting parts or materials I never change them manually. if then we talk about quantity as in this debate It's another pair of sleeves.
In my opinion it is mainly a thing to decide upstream as management logistics. the fictitious axieme should not be considered while the committer should not be dissolved.
I make a stupid example, even if I think you understood the concept and everyone works as you want: if I build wagons that according to the flow and size have a coding and I put on a wheel group, a motor group... and these can be the same for different wagons and to keep in stock as spare parts I give him a precise code and I make him the beautiful gold design with their distinct. then in the idle wagon ranging 4 wheel groups and not 4 wheels, 4 pins, 8 bearings... because anyway to the supplier or workshop I will ask 4 complete groups

It would be enough to define a table model that allows to set the equations, but at the moment it is not possible.

I don't know what you mean. that equation I explained and shown is present in the table model.

 

[teseo]

to me with only parts it works, it "explodes" the assemblies and I sum the parts.

check if you have repeated or mirrored underarms, because that's what makes me "casino."

Hi.

 

[Tantocattivo]

above I made a change to the post and I added an image, I do not know with the structural members and the mirrors.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

check if you have repeated or mirrored underarms, because that's what makes me "casino."

you have a distinct indentation and therefore cannot show you the total of the parts but only the number of parts of the subaxieme in which they are contained and the total number of this subaxieme.
if you have to keep the distinct with reentry and do not see the subaxieme but only the total parts go into the subaxieme configuration and you put promote as a distinct option materials

 

[teseo]

you have a distinct indentation and therefore cannot show you the total of the parts but only the number of parts of the subaxieme in which they are contained and the total number of this subaxieme.
if you have to keep the distinct with reentry and do not see the subaxieme but only the total parts go into the subaxieme configuration and you put promote as a distinct option materials

ok I think I have understood if I put the distinction only parts actually all parts are counted whether they are repeated that they are mirrored; But let the structural members show you the right quantities but you lose the chance to have the detailed distinction and therefore its distinct cut...... or am I wrong here too? ? ? ?

Hi.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

the structural members that show you the right quantities but you lose the chance to have the detailed distinction and therefore its separate cut

I have already said how I think it, but I repeat it.
if the element is designed and therefore has a code then it does not need separate cut because it is an upn, a he or other will be specified on the table; if the element has no design because a simple beam manages it as a metrature trade then you have two roads
- toolbox insert
- insertion as part but to manage as equation