problem with tables and bubbles

[drake]

Hello everyone,
I wanted a clarification on something strange that makes solidworks with tables and bubbles in the drawings.
I have noticed in the table of distinct material, which putting the setting with re-entry and distinct cut detailed the quantity it considers is correct, while if I do not put the distinct detailed cut wrong! seems to exchange the amount with the length, is it possible? (I attach images 1 and 2).
another thing that I unfortunately noticed is that the association of bubbles with the cutting distracts for welds are correct only in the first that is inserted in a drawing, while in the next are wrong. in the attached image 3, the second bubble is wrong because it does not insert the 4 bubble but stops at 3 as in the one inserted before. if I put the manual bubble in fact puts 0!

 

[Mike1967]

... as there are dozens of versions of solidworks (more than 12 versions x 4/5 sp...) can you indicate at least this info?

 

[drake]

... as there are dozens of versions of solidworks (more than 12 versions x 4/5 sp...) can you indicate at least this info?

si la versione è la 2012 sp1 x32.. .

 

[Mike1967]

Yes, in fact it is strange, but give a judgment with only three screenshots
It's impossible.
my advice is to update the last sp, to date 2.0, in fact on 2012 the first two releases have different problems in the toolbox sector
and I would not rule out that the problem to elem. strutt. it's connected to that.
on the other hand it is also true that I used pre-release, sp0 and sp1 and I never found that problem.
Have you tried reinstalling the sw?
Hi.

 

[drake]

Yes, in fact it is strange, but give a judgment with only three screenshots
It's impossible.
my advice is to update the last sp, to date 2.0, in fact on 2012 the first two releases have different problems in the toolbox sector
and I would not rule out that the problem to elem. strutt. it's connected to that.
on the other hand it is also true that I used pre-release, sp0 and sp1 and I never found that problem.
Have you tried reinstalling the sw?
Hi.

hi mike, no I didn't try to reinstall the software but it's just that I installed it.
I noticed now and I did several tests with the same defect.
Unfortunately this year I have not renewed my assistance and no longer allows me to download the new version, so I think I am forced to hold this.
However they are things that a software should not do, because they are automatisms that have to work regardless, as they are used precisely to facilitate the job and if one does not trust... it is better to avoid and make only necessary tight. Today it has become absurd that users, for a fee, become those who fix all the bugs of the programs, because the mothers have to force release new versions that in most cases do not work!
I also take advantage of another thing I found last night when I used smartfasters x 1 time on this version.
If I insert a hole with standard iso I can put the bolt, while if I defile it with standard din no because it tells me that the path is wrong. . .
Could it be x the same reasons?
if you need image of the error.. .

 

[andle11]

Hello everyone,
I wanted a clarification on something strange that makes solidworks with tables and bubbles in the drawings.
I have noticed in the table of distinct material, which putting the setting with re-entry and distinct cut detailed the quantity it considers is correct, while if I do not put the distinct detailed cut wrong! seems to exchange the amount with the length, is it possible? (I attach images 1 and 2).
another thing that I unfortunately noticed is that the association of bubbles with the cutting distracts for welds are correct only in the first that is inserted in a drawing, while in the next are wrong. in the attached image 3, the second bubble is wrong because it does not insert the 4 bubble but stops at 3 as in the one inserted before. if I put the manual bubble in fact puts 0!

I too, on sw2010 sp2.1, reply that senza flag on separate detailed cut shows me in the table the length of the profile and not the q.tà of pieces.

 

[drake]

I too, on sw2010 sp2.1, reply that senza flag on separate detailed cut shows me in the table the length of the profile and not the q.tà of pieces.

I have always found these problems. The thing that leaves me perplexed is this: Solidworks is a widespread software (or at least it seems), possible that has not just negligible bugs like this? other thing I have discovered and I have also communicated in the forum at its time and opened an official sr, and that I do not know if they have solved, is that wrong the cutting lists of welded elements! Now I don't trust it anymore and I don't use it, because I think it's absurd to recheck everything every time, so it's worth it by hand or not?
and what I wrote before the bubble is wrong on the same design? one who has to make a design for every weld he uses? and why can't I put them all in the same table, was it written in the features of the program? It doesn't seem to me!
I believe that a software must facilitate the work and therefore should be used without fearing that mistakes!

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

and what I wrote before the bubble is wrong on the same design? one who has to make a design for every weld he uses? and why can't I put them all in the same table, was it written in the features of the program? It doesn't seem to me!
I believe that a software must facilitate the work and therefore should be used without fearing that mistakes!

for this point verify that in the view property there is the check on "link bubble text to the specified table" at the bottom right

 

[drake]

for this point verify that in the view property there is the check on "link bubble text to the specified table" at the bottom right

Thanks you're right I didn't think about it.
but is it possible to set it by default? or do you need to remember and do it from time to time?

 

[drake]

Sorry, but I don't understand the use of this option. if he makes me choose a view at the time of inserting a distinct and similarly at the time of inserting the bubble, why should I have the option to choose which distinct use?
Moreover if I insert a set or a welded in two different sheets, perhaps with two different angles, I saw that once you insert the separate and the bubble in a sheet, why in the other sheet after inserting the separate does not insert the automatic bubble but do I have to force insert the manual? Am I wrong?

 

[drake]

Is there no one answering?
how do you put the same together or welded in different views and want to insert the bubble as well as in the first view also in others?
I can only insert them manually, because the automatic bubble does not fit anything.
Thank you.

 

[Mike1967]

I checked, with sp2 no problem.
both the material table, and the cutting distinct work.
Make sure you have not copied a view with a bubble that you may not see, also try with the "no multiple instances".
I repeat, sp 2 no problem.

 

[drake]

I checked, with sp2 no problem.
both the material table, and the cutting distinct work.
Make sure you have not copied a view with a bubble that you may not see, also try with the "no multiple instances".
I repeat, sp 2 no problem.

So now I did another test and with a set it worked, while with a welded no, not even putting the check "no multiple instances".
I noticed in the properties of the view together he puts the check on "link the bubble to the specified table" and by default takes the last distinct made and therefore correct. instead with the welded does not do so and does not put the check and consequently does not associate any table, but also manually putting the check and giving it the correct table no longer puts anything.

 

[drake]

Excuse me. . .
manual bubble puts it regardless of the check on the properties and this time put it correct.. .

 

[re_solidworks]

Sorry, but I don't understand the use of this option. if he makes me choose a view at the time of inserting a distinct and similarly at the time of inserting the bubble, why should I have the option to choose which distinct use?

for a capillary management of multifoil. I can have a draft with 10 sheets and 2 separate, which maybe represent 2 different configurations and be able to associate view for view to the difference that interests me.
I have not yet installed 2012 I keep beat as much as possible on 2011 and when I will be forced by the frectolosis customers.... I will follow.
from what I have understood over the years, to avoid rogne it is good to model in the most realistic way possible, so the distinguished at first level emulate already from if what it serves. at the moment when we go to manipulate the distinct and to use other ways they are born roars.
If you stopped the assistance you would have done better to hold a 2011 sp. 5 rather than a 2012 sp. 1.

you have all the reasons of this world in what you write, but we all know that reality is not what should be and not only applies to swx, it is for everyone.

 

[drake]

for a capillary management of multifoil. I can have a draft with 10 sheets and 2 separate, which maybe represent 2 different configurations and be able to associate view for view to the difference that interests me.
I have not yet installed 2012 I keep beat as much as possible on 2011 and when I will be forced by the frectolosis customers.... I will follow.
from what I have understood over the years, to avoid rogne it is good to model in the most realistic way possible, so the distinguished at first level emulate already from if what it serves. at the moment when we go to manipulate the distinct and to use other ways they are born roars.
If you stopped the assistance you would have done better to hold a 2011 sp. 5 rather than a 2012 sp. 1.

you have all the reasons of this world in what you write, but we all know that reality is not what should be and not only applies to swx, it is for everyone.

hi re_solidworks critical accepted, in fact I repented and not little! I saw that sp 1 came out right away and so I thought it was better and then I knew I'd get out of the service and I fell! ! !
Thank you.