project management without pro/intralink

[BuDuS]

Premetto: I opened a post on the ng dedicated to the cad and I was invited by a user (ale) to post here, I hope to do what you like and however I take advantage of it to discuss with you of this aspect.​

So, I see to summarize my situation:

• uso pro/engineer wf2 without pro / intralink
• I have the need for import/sportare projects that develop for a customer who uses pro/intralink
• I would also have the desire, if necessary, to be able to better manage the phases of the project, that is, to allow me to save a state, develop it and, if it goes wrong, be able to go back without too much trouble.

who works with the classic working directory (wd) I think I know well which breed of grains jump out when you have to import and export from pro/intralink.

in phase of import there is the problem that, if you have to apply a patch to the project (it can happen that, you are working on something and they send you a part of the updated project, etc...), the file version problem: pro/intralink exports everything to you as a .1 , but probably in your wd you have the same files that are already beyond and, in fact, making a simple overwriting, you get Nothing because clearly pro/engineer still loads the latest version.

in phase of export export there is the problem of categorically avoid the input of data that is already present in the system, especially if you are not sure that they are more updated. in principle, to tribulate little, it is necessary to import only things new o updated.
the problem is that it is not easy to understand, at the end of work, what is up-to-date and what is not, because pro/engineer, in certain situations, saves also files that, basically, have not immediately no voluntary design changes (maybe he saves them only because he recalculated the mass or something like that).

n.b.: Clearly, if I say chestnuts, please correct me!
I'm here on purpose...​

Finally, I was accustomed to my 2d saving the phases of study with a "version" and, if something went wrong, it was enough to re-open an old version and continue from that.
in pro/engineer this thing is not substantially feasible, if not with a certain "sacrifice".

I have also been informed about some software that allows to solve these problems, but I was told that, at present, I do not want to take pro/intralink or anything because to "breve" will be replaced by a new more efficient pdm and that it integrates tools for these issues.

But I'm in... now, I can't wait for one or two years.

So I decided to make a script, a softwarino that would help me handle these things.
time available zero, need to work immediately and well led me to create a script bash su linux, because I have known it for several years, it already offers several tools to quickly make "automatic procedures", etc...

time allowing and if the thing actually has a usefulness (maybe there is something, I did not know and did that gadget for nothing:tongue, I do not exclude that in the future can do something with the gui and working also on windows.

if you want to know more and try it, you can read the page I created on google docs at this address: http://docs.google.com/view?id=dcgvrzfr_1d7sb3bgwI also look forward to your suggestions on the subject!

 

[cacciatorino]

I opened a post on the ng dedicated to the cad and I was invited by a user (ale) to post here too, I hope to do what you like and however I take advantage of it to discuss with you of this aspect.

Hello, I was the one who answered it.comp .software.cad. The reason I hijacked you here is that on that ng there are almost exclusively autocad users, I hope your post here collects more interest.
I now go to see your document to see if I can pull out something good for solid edge (although solid edge already has a mini-pdm given as standard with all versions of solid edge).

Bye.

p.s. congratulations for the thorough knowledge of the bash and for the file all well commented.

 

[SweptBlend]

many compliments.. .
really an interesting object,
if you could have on winzoz without installing a virtual machine,
and perhaps comparison would be compared... ;-)

apart from jokes, really remarkable

 

[BuDuS]

many compliments.. .
really an interesting object,
if you could have on winzoz without installing a virtual machine,

Yes, I have problems in this regard: via network is slow and I found that "work bad" (in some situation of temporary files are "locked" even after their use by the so and the script can no longer work properly .... I imagine it is a problem of windows/samba, etc...) and a vm is still a "heavy object", which if added to pro/e ...

and perhaps comparison would be compared... ;-)

I used raffronta e non cin comparison because c was already busy in the options from charge charge.
Cambierò carica in ripristina e raffronta in confronta.

apart from jokes, really remarkable

Here, I am interested in knowing whether, before embarking on the development of a real programme (but initially I limit myself to one thing for dos, practically the "motor" and then I add the lead) - I am self-taught programmer at the level very much Hobbistic, therefore ... -, the thing has actually a utility and, somewhere, there is something similar (freeware) done better, why I then wrote here:biggrin:

 

[SweptBlend]

something like that already exists,
both on the Italian market and on the international market,
but they have the presumption of being real competitors at the pdm,
while if you "remain low", without any intention to go to
replace to pdm, edm, cdm, etc.etc.etc.etc, I think there are a tide of people who will be interested, I think of technical studies, designers who work for n companies.

But is the need to work on winzoz ( shell dos ? )

happy work ;-)

 

[Lucap]

budus excuse, but consider tools currently distributed by ptc? prointralink is the old edm that has been replaced by a lot with various windchill line tools, on all pdmlink§; but, since you don't seem to have powerful pdm needs, it could be enough for a productpoint thing, which by the way uses sharepoint services, microsoft corporate web platform really "easy".
Since the customer is under these conditions, that is, it has a tool that is not even more supported if not for security patches, perhaps a solution for both there is.

Good job!

 

[BuDuS]

the customer tells me that "between not much" (?) will pass to a pdm that "seems" operate via the web and that it would allow to work remotely, eliminating the problem of import/export.

All very vague... but enough to induce my company to wait for the development of the thing.

Meanwhile, not to be "walking", I keep using the little program I mentioned. since some users contacted me with private messages asking for lumens on how to use it, I place here a system that seems to work very well and is rather easy to set up.

I initially recommended virtualization (vmware): it works, but it is a heavy brick and it is not very simple to stand up.

I am now using msys, a system that emulates on windows la bash linux (in summary, its terminal).

here is how to proceed:

1. if you install msys. who http://www.mingw.org/wiki/msys There's the guide. synthetically we must:
   • download the latest version (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/) ofautomated mingw installer (5.1.6 to today) and launch it; it is a software that asks "any components to install" and then proceeds to install them; if you have no particular needs, you can also leave like this.
   • install msys by taking it from the link written above (on the page you will find it where there is "install msys 1.0.11. i usually install it in c:\msys\1.0, but you can use any directory that you prefer." or similar, I don't link because maybe it is updated, etc....)
   • when msys installs, opens a terminal where he asks some questions; basically asks where mingw installed. Now, I answered with:
     • y
     • y
     • c:\mingw
     because using the forward slash "/" gave error. However there is to set up a config file (to be done in all ways).
   • get a decent editor (so not knownpad) able to edit unix files (gvim, emacs, but there are other less ostic ones for windows, I think) and edit the file c:\msys\1.юetc\fstab come segue:

     c:/mingw /mingw
     c:/path/drawings/proes

     ora, la riga:

     c:/path/drawings/proes

     represents where one "holds the root of the pro/e projects" (for example I have "c:\clients" and from there I leave with "\name_business\name_work") and where it wants it to be accessible under msys; when it opens terminal, it will try to access using:

     cd /pro/percourse_work/ecc...

2. download photo.zip and copy the decompressed "photo" file in the folder "c:\msys\1.0\bin"; In this way, by typing in the terminal "photo", you will have immediately available the command.

do all this (it takes more to write it than to do it!), on the desktop there is the icon of msys; launching it opens the unix terminal. with:

cd /pro/client_name/work_name

one goes to the folder where there is the project and with:

foto h | less

verify if the command is operational and also gets the guide (it comes out from the guide by pressing "q").

just to try it a little one can save the current situation with:

foto s base

(I used "base" but you can give any name; discourages the use of spaces, used "_")
make some modifications in proes, save and get "differences" with:

foto r base

I remember that "photo" does not change any files, it only does copy files by increasing the version and only if one uses certain parameters; in other words, a simple "saving" (parameter "s") and "raffronto" (parameter "r") do not touch the files at least; after you run a "raffronto", the script creates a file whose name starts with "_difference_" ( .txt extension and in windows format) where one has a relationship that can also attach, etc...

If you have any problems or suggestions, please contact me :finger:

good work:biggrin: