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[K79]

hi to all I ask an explanation:

I create the 3d of a flange or hub or what is there then the possibility of pouring it into the table idw so that you take the quotas automatically? ?

thanks to all

 

[cen82]

hi to all I ask an explanation:

I create the 3d of a flange or hub or what is there then the possibility of pouring it into the table idw so that you take the quotas automatically? ?

thanks to all

once you enter the view of the part in the table, right click "Recover odds" and insert the odds you put already when you drew the sketch.

attention because they told me that if you change the quota in the table you change it also in the model!! ! ! !

 

[K79]

Okay, let's say that the command recovers altitude I saw but doesn't do a full operation, maybe I have to make decisions when I create the 3d that help me in 2d.
but I do not know exactly how to do, constraints, not constraints, moreover the odds do not place them in an understandable way and I find myself, after designing the 3d, to open mechanical and to bring back tt.

 

[Tarkus]

..ad aprire mechanical ???????
e perchè

 

[K79]

asp. I try to understand the sense of the question cmq explanations are 2:
- in the company we have inventor and autocad mechanical
- if I can't make the inventor constructors to give them to the suppliers, I have to bring the whole thing back in 2d with the odds.

 

[davide75]

then if your problem is this you have to try to model the piece by quotating the sketches, where possible, so that they are the same odds you want to put in the table.When you do the command recovers quotas you can opt to recover according to the view or according to the feature (if I don't remember badly ). inventor shows you all the odds in the view or only the odds relative to the features always in the selected view. After that you have to select the odds you want to maintain and you just have to place them aesthetically.
Sometimes it is best to recover quotas for view or feature, it always depends on how you want to quote.
as to the constraints only experience in modeling will make you understand how it is better sometimes to bind a sketch with quotas or with constraints.
Usually if the piece is symmetrical it tries to bind it geometrically on the half-carry so as to use fewer possible odds and to have better control in the phase of subsequent modifications.
same thing with the solids of revolution.

 

[Tarkus]

asp. I try to understand the sense of the question cmq explanations are 2:
- in the company we have inventor and autocad mechanical
- if I can't make the inventor constructors to give them to the suppliers, I have to bring the whole thing back in 2d with the odds.

Okay, but then the question is,
Do you really need automatic quotation?
Besides, it always seemed like a gadget and not a useful thing, it puts you a thousand odds of which 990 are useless.
My advice:
worry about listing the sketch with the shares that serve the sketch and just.
Then he shares it manually on the table, in 10 minutes he puts a bunch of odds intelligently for those who will have to interpret the design... if you then tell me about a hub or flange, as complicated as they are, it puts a lot less. .

 

[marcof]

- if I can't make the inventor constructors to give them to the suppliers, I have to bring the whole thing back in 2d with the odds.

It's a delusion...
if you have to switch from inv to mechanical to make 2d tables to send to iho suppliers there is something that does not fit in your way of using inventor.

 

[K79]

@tarkus as usual you have taken place.

@marcf I had your own expression and punctuality reason why I posted here the question, some info about it?

 

[Tarkus]

@tarkus as usual you have taken place.

@marcf I had your own expression and punctuality reason why I posted here the question, some info about it?

But let me understand, from your answer, it would seem that the idea of modeling in inv and quotating with mechanics, is not your need, but rather the modus operandi of your company?

 

[re_solidworks]

but in mechanical the quotas must be put by hand, there is no automatic quotation. at this point what difference does mechanical and inventor share? if you make changes the inv board is associative, the 2d dwg of mechanical no, avoid import/export, you have the automatic distinct, etc....
Maybe you just need to study the environment and the necessary controls for drawings.

 

[K79]

I try to explain myself better:
We normally use mechanical parts where we put them by hand and the separate components are by hand.

for a prototype I decided to make in inventor, where I am self-taught, and at the end of the prototype I found myself having to put the constructions on the table don the quotas to send them in production and I found myself having to remake the drawings in 2d because the automatic quotas were worth and those manuals of inventor I had to waste time to change, learn, make readable.

so my opening of the post

 

[marcof]

I try to explain myself better:
We normally use mechanical parts where we put them by hand and the separate components are by hand.
for a prototype I decided to make in inventor, where I am self-taught, and at the end of the prototype I found myself having to put the constructions on the table don the quotas to send them in production and I found myself having to remake the drawings in 2d because the automatic quotas were worth and those manuals of inventor I had to waste time to change, learn, make readable.

I imagine that in the inv you can decide which are the quotas of the model that must be imported automatically in the table. in this case it is logical that the quotation of the sketches and the choice of the features must be made according to what you want to have as automatic quotas in the 2d.
If you don't want to use automatic quotation you have to put hand shares on the 2d inv. in both inv modes you must know how to use it, and on this it does not rain.
make 3d with inv (with all the advantages of an environment where table 2d is always associated with its 3d model) and export the tables to quota them with a 2d is pure madness. You've come to do all the 3d m of the prototype machine... make an effort and study the inv table environment to make the tables with your standards.

 

[Tarkus]

I try to explain myself better:
We normally use mechanical parts where we put them by hand and the separate components are by hand.

for a prototype I decided to make in inventor, where I am self-taught, and at the end of the prototype I found myself having to put the constructions on the table don the quotas to send them in production and I found myself having to remake the drawings in 2d because the automatic quotas were worth and those manuals of inventor I had to waste time to change, learn, make readable.

so my opening of the post

I don't want you to be brutal, but I agree with marcof:
if you have only mechanical then amen,
but if you also have inventor then we are at the pure delusion.
First of all, quotating with inventor is faster than with autocad (also with power quota).
then it's extremely quicker modeling and all the workflow that follows.
I think some time spent learning how to use inventor is a good investment, both for you and for your company.
doing what you're doing now is really lost time.. .

 

[K79]

thanks to both for the Sunday and for the sprinkling.

what to say I have to try to understand how it works in time cutouts since the rest of the hours I have to manage all the technical outfit and process 40 offers per month and all the delirium that follows.

Thank you.
You will understand if I break with trivial questions that with a little time I come out alone, inv opened a couple of times and prototype with presentation, explode and what else came out in 2gg, but I really miss the time.

 

[Catafratto]

I add myself to marcof and tarkus, in inventor the table and quotation are really good, you just need to get used to a little: made a couple of days to quota with inv, ask us that couple of things that do not come and then do not go back.

 

[K79]

Thank you very much.

I list the steps I make to see if something doesn't come back.

in idw environment

select the view I'm interested in and normally place an axometric at the bottom of the left
select the front view and position at the center of the drawing
I move right and left to view the relative faces (create)
I go to the anether view and dx key recovers odds
At this point I select the quotas that I am interested in and do ok
set the quotas visually
all right here or I already start with the wrong foot?

 

[K79]

I recovered an old design and....
....
I discovered that the main mistake lies in the fact that the quotation of my design is wrong, in the sense that if the quotas I admit in the sketch are not the ones I need, or at least most, in the recovery quotas comes out 'na schifezza.

then I leave the point even to those who will read after:

the quotas in the creation of the sketch must be those that are then reported in the table, including the phi, and the quotas of the maximum dimensions, not only those on the half-carry for the creation of the sketch.

Right? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

 

[Peppe]

excuse me but not always the odds that are given in the sketches then are useful for putting on the table.... .
I just don't understand this need to automatically quote... as other users have told you the loss of time is not the quotation.
on the other hand, the table is better for the workshop.
I prefer to lose 10 minutes for a good commission but to have everything connected (model/table) in inventor that does not move from software to software.
think only the utility systems something in the model that is then automatically brought back to the table.... .

 

[davide75]

Thank you very much.

I list the steps I make to see if something doesn't come back.

in idw environment

select the view I'm interested in and normally place an axometric at the bottom of the left

the eye that positionnado before the absolute inventor takes as a reference scale that of the first view you put.
so if you put the absolute first that will usually never be equal to the scale with which you go to quote the other views in the cartiglio you will find a scale not congruous to the actual views of the drawing.