refundable milage dip.

[cacciatorino]

We saw that the rates are similar.
someone says they are approximated by excess, but in my opinion only because you do not compute the variable costs for any previously mentioned unexpected.

to answer your question I would ask you to agree on an appropriate tariff.
If we don’t deal with it, I’d come to work by bus, so you could better deepen real costs by having to buy or rent a car for the purpose.

If my refusal threatens the job, I might be forced to accept your terms. but it's a way to subpoena an employee. like those who claim not to pay you overtime, or only to set up part time while working 40 hours a week.

I would ask not to refer to illegal cases or to intimidation of the employer on the employee, as they do not do so here, and I am totally out of context from the discussion. I apologize if I point out, but given the tenor of certain answers received in this discussion by people who comment without first reading, the step from "like those who..." to "but you have people in black..." is short.

 

[gil]

It is absolutely not my intention to denigrate anyone and not even to do illusions. mine is a calculation and analysis as much as possible.

 

[MBT]

But sorry, hunting...
Now I'm going to follow you
you did good and brilliant analysis, refuting the aci tables
who gave you more reason, saying that they are "exaggerated" but that perhaps such exaggeration is somehow "justified"
it has been explained that the aci tables are "recommended" but not "mandatory", so there is the possibility of a tariff agreed between the parties
has been suggested to caution you and agree for any problems related to the use of the private vehicle, in particular to hypothetical quarrels in case of accident, rupture, avary... .
no one, in my memory, has ever allowed to question your seriousness or your employee if not at the end of "provoy" to stimulate discussion
So, what are we still discussing?

 

[Dade73]

Good morning, everyone.

As an employer, I think that the tariff is more than correct, and since the employee makes available his own way to travel, everything can be matched.
From the point of view of the agreements between the parties, no one prohibits finding a solution with a kilometre price, which can give satisfaction to both parties.
the aci tariff gives as reference, the maximum deductible (from the tax point of view) to refunds. therefore it is considered to avoid finding in the balance sheets of the companies costs pumped to evade the fisco.

davide

 

[haga78]

So you think it's right to apply a generic table, which may not suit the specific case, rather than study the real situation and apply quota ratings.

but first of all we have seen (actual accounts at hand) that the generic table is quite reliable.
If you don't feel it appropriate for your case, because the car is methane and is 10 years old, try to go to a used car seller, buy one and use it as a corporate car: you will pay very little, but stamp, insurance, tires and coupons you will pay them as for a new car, then you will see that the costs are not only those of methane.

then, even if you are paying a little more than the actual cost, consider also the "added value" of the thing: your employee is exempting you from buying and managing a company car.
If for example I do not have my car available one day and I have to move to make 100 km to go to a medical visit and a friend lends me his car, it is not that I put only the gasoline that I consumed, but I will give it back with the full, because if he did not do me the favor or did not do what I could do or should have done it at much more costs (like taking a taxi), in essence in that situation it has solved me.

Finally how should you handle case by case?
rules are necessary, even in case of legal disputes and anything else.
there are so many cases in life that would be personalized, but it is not possible.
Imagine two people with the same income and who pay the same taxes, one however is in good health and one instead has many problems and uses care at the ssn: according to your reasoning it would be necessary to customize the taxes they pay, because one of the two uses more public health services than the other.

 

[Cristallo]

I do not know if you are aware that the amount of the ark varies depending on the type of fuel.
diesel has a higher rca cost than gasoline, at equal displacement and power of the car. Will it be because diesel costs less? Asked for insurance responded that who buys a diesel car, it is because he thinks to do many km saving on the fuel, ergo the risk increases and at the same time the ark.
and who buys methane because he does? Do you have a thousand thousand miles per year?
and I do not know if you are aware that to ensure a new car of dealership, it has lower costs (at equal car, displacement and power) than a car of 10 years.
the car with fewer years is safer and therefore cheaper in the ark.

This at least happens to me, where in order to assure a micra 1000, as already said before, you do not descend to less than 800 euros annually in 1st class.

 

[Focus]

This at least happens to me, where in order to assure a micra 1000, as already said before, you do not descend to less than 800 euros annually in 1st class.

Of course, but also vary according to the province, a methane panda, of the year 2014, costs me 342 euri insurance year, there is no unique and sacred data.

Hi.

p.s. I forgot...with insured driver.

 

[cacciatorino]

but first of all we have seen (actual accounts at hand) that the generic table is quite reliable.
If you don't feel it appropriate for your case, because the car is methane and is 10 years old, try to go to a used car seller, buy one and use it as a corporate car: you will pay very little, but stamp, insurance, tires and coupons you will pay them as for a new car, then you will see that the costs are not only those of methane.

Sincerely, I still don't understand why you say I don't calculate the fixed costs, did you read the accounts I put back in the discussion? I make copy-paste from my message, so maybe this time it's clearer:

what I spend, which I have a car about the same age and mileage (10 years and 200,000 km)

1) insurance 250 euro/year
2) interest share I do not know what it is, if it were to be devaluation will be 200 euros a year to exaggerate
3) stamp 118 euro
4) fuel 0.048 euro/km
5) tyres 0.008 euro/km
6) maintenance 0.008 euro/km
7) share capital I do not know what it is, I imagine the purchase cost divided by the life of the car, we make 13.000/300.000 = 0.043 euro/km

it turns out that to wander around with my car I spend 0.107 of variable costs or 0.1354 considering fixed and variable costs (on 20,000 km/year)

In short, I still can't figure out where the hole is in the tank of my car that makes me spend 0.36 euro/km (tax aci for a methane point).