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relation of space between model and layout

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Sorry about the perplexity, but I was wondering something.
If a model object is modelled, it will have its own reference coordinate, for example the baricentric coordinate. if then I go into the layout space, and imposed for example a perspective view, what I ask myself is...from the layout space, such baricentric coordinate in what position of the space is?how can you identify from the layout space? :confused:
 
It's always in the same place as before.
the layout does not have "space", is a photo of the model, and as such is two-dimensional.
The 3d display controls (dddvpoint, 3dorbit etc) are not allowed.
 
Cristallo said:
It's always in the same place as before.
the layout does not have "space", is a photo of the model, and as such is two-dimensional.
The 3d display controls (dddvpoint, 3dorbit etc) are not allowed.
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All right, but then if I make a line on paper space and move it by giving the coordinates of an object for how they detect it on model satie...where do I end the line I have on paper space?
 
n x scale of the paper space window. where n is the size of the model in the paper space.

practical example:
the detected distance of the model is 500.
the window in the paper space is 1:10
in paper space the measured distance 50
so if the move of 500 goes fuoi screen
 
MassiVonWeizen said:
n x scale of the paper space window. where n is the size of the model in the paper space.

practical example:
the detected distance of the model is 500.
the window in the paper space is 1:10
in paper space the measured distance 50
so if the move of 500 goes fuoi screen
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I understood, so if I had the coordinates in an attribute, and wanted to send in a layout space a numeric tag over the object of which I have the coordinate in attribute, I have to make a lisp that shifts the value equal to the value stored in the right representation attribute/scale?
 
to me seems to have become the paleograph of the forum.......
the one who, after eternal sleepless nights deciphers the ark code of the lords of the cad !!!
I try again this time hoping to unravel the hidden thought in quoting below.
anfaloni said:
I understood, so if I had the coordinates in an attribute, and wanted to send in a layout space a numeric tag over the object of which I have the coordinate in attribute, I have to make a lisp that shifts the value equal to the value stored in the right representation attribute/scale?
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practically anphaloni says it has blocks with attributes, containing coordinates, of the block itself I imagine.
When you make the table, you should appear, according to what you say, the numerical tag containing that value above the block.
but, continuing with reasoning, all this does not happen properly .......:confused:
or that numerical value is shot in space thousand thousand thousand light years away from where it should be.
Maybe there's a mistake in setting attributes inside the block.
Therefore, to conclude, anfaloni says that the solution would create an ad hoc lisp, which he says, move tags over to where the block is located, and all this taking advantage of the numerical relationship that he proposed [MENTION=16601]mammals[/MENTION].
:4441:
If I was wrong or I messed up even more vs. minds......... Whip me to blood.
Otherwise well, I have achieved my purpose. :wink:
 
numero1 said:
to me seems to have become the paleograph of the forum.......
the one who, after eternal sleepless nights deciphers the ark code of the lords of the cad !!!
I try again this time hoping to unravel the hidden thought in quoting below.



practically anphaloni says it has blocks with attributes, containing coordinates, of the block itself I imagine.
When you make the table, you should appear, according to what you say, the numerical tag containing that value above the block.
but, continuing with reasoning, all this does not happen properly .......:confused:
or that numerical value is shot in space thousand thousand thousand light years away from where it should be.
Maybe there's a mistake in setting attributes inside the block.
Therefore, to conclude, anfaloni says that the solution would create an ad hoc lisp, which he says, move tags over to where the block is located, and all this taking advantage of the numerical relationship that he proposed [MENTION=16601]mammals[/MENTION].
:4441:
If I was wrong or I messed up even more vs. minds......... Whip me to blood.
Otherwise well, I have achieved my purpose. :wink:
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ahhahahahahahaahhh you went close to us... you are right... I have explained badly... I try. We admit to having a solid 3d in model space. Let's say that his spatial coordinate is xyz. now we put that in the layout space has put an a3 cartiglio and that has created a 1:30 scale window with set in it perspective view. Suppose that you want to call with the letter "a" the object displayed in the layout window.... what I would like to do is a lisp that in the layout space throws the letter "a" over the object displayed using the coordinates x/30,y/30,z/30.... is it possible according to you? Do you understand what I have in mind now?
 
esploso-apparecchio.webpas you see imagine that the object is seen in perspective in layout space. the numerical or literary brands identify the individual object. ..I would like to automate them and launch them on the individual object directly from layout space
 
if you have to make one hundred drawing to sense, otherwise why not copy the letter/write/insert the letter to the object with estimated time in 10 seconds?
 
I had already posted the answer before I saw the image.
your need might make sense, but you still have to edit all numbers by hand
then at that point or make a lisp that besides placing the letter, which must also have a discard regarding the coordinates of the object because otherwise it goes on and becomes unreadable, recovers from that object a property representative the numerical position of the separate
or create a block with attribute that asks you for value.

then said among us if drawings in model space, quotas, notes, pallini and other entities bound to geometry is made in model space.
 
ah I forgot, it is always nice to have an image that makes clear the problematic after 10 posts.
 
MassiVonWeizen said:
I had already posted the answer before I saw the image.
your need might make sense, but you still have to edit all numbers by hand
then at that point or make a lisp that besides placing the letter, which must also have a discard regarding the coordinates of the object because otherwise it goes on and becomes unreadable, recovers from that object a property representative the numerical position of the separate
or create a block with attribute that asks you for value.

then said among us if drawings in model space, quotas, notes, pallini and other entities bound to geometry is made in model space.
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exact...I usually find myself an explosive object placed on the table in layout space and an excel sheet where each object is associated with the numeric brand besides the purchase code...so if with extracting data I could really think of doing as we were thinking...because I can also happen things with many objects
 
Now the question is clear to me.
Of course there is a sheet excel and a data extract goes out to the 15# post as the first hand fished briscola ace,...
an explosive object placed on the table in space layou
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but at first you didn't talk about objects in model space?
 
MassiVonWeizen said:
Now the question is clear to me.
Of course there is a sheet excel and a data extract goes out to the 15# post as the first hand fished briscola ace,...


but at first you didn't talk about objects in model space?
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by putting into the table I mean to present the object in the layout space in the cartiglio and with views, stairs and marking inserted in the layout space including quotation. modelling is all in model space. . I made a test with blocks in model space and from extracts data with export in excel I saw that parameters such as the coordinates of the individual objects are obtainable...at this point...if I define an attribute "numeric mark" as block with attributes. . I can try to see if I can throw the brands on the individual objects....but give me a xke hand I know is to use getexcel and more in lisp..mmmmm
 
haahhaha the ace the discard now that there are the loads on the counter..haaghaa... aside from you made me think about the extra data when you said that I should find the way to give the brand also the numerical value....and the best thing I think is just to pass for a excel file made to hoc... born from an extra data... if I work in model space using only the features that you need behind
 

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